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Old 13 December 2006, 10:38 AM
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Angry Fekkin council tax THIEVES!

OK, my dad passed away last week, so me and my older sis are now sorting his estate, bills etc etc.

When my mum died 7 years ago, he put my sister on his house deeds as co-owner, and also as co-holder of all his accounts. Makes it easy to deal with financial affairs now he's gone.

Council tax though

HE was getting a 25% rebate as a single occupant.

NOW my sister owns the house free and clear, but CAN'T have a 25% rebate on council tax because she's married, so can't be a single occupant. And that's DISPITE the fact that she is co-owner of another property in the same town, and pays full council tax on that!

As the law stands, there is apparently nothing we can do, short of clear out all his furniture, then we pay NO council tax for 6 months to allow us to sell it.

What a fekked up system...........only in Britain, eh?

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Old 13 December 2006, 10:48 AM
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Sorry, what's wrong? You get a rebate if you're a single occupant. She's not a single occupant. Where's the theft bit?
Old 13 December 2006, 10:55 AM
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Not legal, but I know of someone who simply rang the council and gave them the name of the {ficticious} new tenant that was {NOT} now renting the property. Council then send the bill to this 'new' tenant.
Meanwhile you do whatever to the house and sell it. Then when its sold inform the council that the tenant has moved out with no forwarding address and you've sold it.
Council are so inept at doing anything that they never get it sorted before you've sold.
Got 2 years free of council tax doing that!

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Old 13 December 2006, 10:58 AM
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Ah, there's the theft bit...
Old 13 December 2006, 11:00 AM
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Is she living in the property? Council tax deduction is based on occupancy, not ownership. If one (or less) people are living in the property then you should get a discount.
Old 13 December 2006, 11:00 AM
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which one is she living in? surley the other one becomes zero ocupancy???
Old 13 December 2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Sorry, what's wrong? You get a rebate if you're a single occupant. She's not a single occupant. Where's the theft bit?
Have you READ the post? She's not occupying it AT ALL, it's empty, she lives, with her husband, at her own house of which she is co-owner.

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Old 13 December 2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
which one is she living in? surley the other one becomes zero ocupancy???
You'd think so wouldn't you, but not according to North Lincs Council.

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Old 13 December 2006, 08:07 PM
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It's usually a 10% discount for 2nd homes.
Old 13 December 2006, 08:53 PM
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Surprising really. We had two properties up until present in different parts of the country, with my wife living in one and me living in the other (then meeting up on weekends). We both got the 25% on our respective residencies as we both lived there alone. Now we're moving into a larger house together and leaving the other unfurnished and unoccupied and it's pretty straight forward again - full CT on one property and 6 months exemption on the second.

AFAIK for our council it was not down to whether we were married or not, but simply on how many lived there!

Hope you get it sorted.

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Old 13 December 2006, 09:49 PM
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Think thats unfair, wait until (if) she sells it, if its worth a bit the magic of IHT will kick in.
Old 13 December 2006, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
OK, my dad passed away last week, so me and my older sis are now sorting his estate, bills etc etc.

When my mum died 7 years ago, he put my sister on his house deeds as co-owner, and also as co-holder of all his accounts. Makes it easy to deal with financial affairs now he's gone.
Council tax though

HE was getting a 25% rebate as a single occupant.

NOW my sister owns the house free and clear, but CAN'T have a 25% rebate on council tax because she's married, so can't be a single occupant. And that's DISPITE the fact that she is co-owner of another property in the same town, and pays full council tax on that!

As the law stands, there is apparently nothing we can do, short of clear out all his furniture, then we pay NO council tax for 6 months to allow us to sell it.

What a fekked up system...........only in Britain, eh?

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And save a fortune on inheritance tax so what exactly are you complaining about?
Old 14 December 2006, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
And save a fortune on inheritance tax so what exactly are you complaining about?
Inheritance tax on a £100,000 property? Get real. We don't ALL live in the rich part of the country, you know

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Old 14 December 2006, 09:38 AM
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When my father passed away, the house was empty and the council gave six months grace while the house was sold without council tax charge. That was North Shropshire.
Old 14 December 2006, 01:09 PM
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Apparently, we can have the 6 months grace too, but only when we've completely emptied the house.

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Old 14 December 2006, 01:20 PM
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Then tell them it's empty.
Old 14 December 2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Inheritance tax on a £100,000 property? Get real. We don't ALL live in the rich part of the country, you know

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Thats got to be a first - someone insinuating that Birmingham is a rich part of the country
Old 14 December 2006, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
Thats got to be a first - someone insinuating that Birmingham is a rich part of the country
It is rich, rich in .....

No we shall not go there
Old 14 December 2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
You'd think so wouldn't you, but not according to North Lincs Council.

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might as well just pay, no point in arguing with dumb ****wits lol
Old 14 December 2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
might as well just pay, no point in arguing with dumb ****wits lol
Exactly what my sis said.
We'll empty the place after we've got Christmas out of the way.

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