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Old 13 December 2006, 08:13 AM
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Default Goldman Sachs staff average bonus £320k?!!

BBC NEWS | Business | Goldman's £8bn Christmas jackpot

Cant be right surely?! I know some big bonuses are being paid but thats got to be an error? Surely they mean £32k?!!
Old 13 December 2006, 08:30 AM
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£32k??

Whats the point of £32k??

No, its £320k ................ a months wages for a Premiership Football Player - hardly a kings ransom?

These people scratch their ***** NOT kick them into some netting!

Old 13 December 2006, 08:47 AM
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Sigh, another "I'm in the wrong job" moment
Old 13 December 2006, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SWRTWannabe
Sigh, another "I'm in the wrong job" moment
Me too
Old 13 December 2006, 08:51 AM
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I know of someone who worked here in investment banking.

You'd never know it talk to him, but you might have a clue when you see some of his cars.
Old 13 December 2006, 08:57 AM
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thats nothing for Goldmans, front office bonus can hit $3Million, probably back/middle office management bonus @£320 k

Bonus is crap now, 7 years ago everyone was make big money
Old 13 December 2006, 08:59 AM
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Bateman, it's the highest average they've ever had at Goldies.

"Hundreds" will get £2m+. A few will get £20m+. Now that's proper money.
Old 13 December 2006, 08:59 AM
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Yeah it's true. What you have to remember is that there are plenty of 'normal people' on 'normal wages'. The figures are skewed by the way the bank is structured around the partners and senior management - who can earn huge bonuses. If that is what you want then fine.

I know someone on their graduate recruitment programme. He went through about a dozen interviews, just to get in. He knows he has effectively given up the next four or five years of his life to establish himself there (the level of committment demanded frightens most people off). After that he probably has another ten years max to make it to partner. If he does that, then he's made for life. That said, as Pete says - they don't give the bonuses for nothing - it is results driven. If you don't make it you're out.

Mind you, even the cast offs from GS tend to be very highly sort after and normally walk into very nice jobs!
Old 13 December 2006, 09:03 AM
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Well there is a typo in the report, £8bn is $15m

Whoever wrote that better not work for GS
Old 13 December 2006, 09:23 AM
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As per the article then..?

Goldman Sachs is to pay its staff more than £8bn ($15bn) in salaries, benefits and Christmas bonuses this year.

Aha, i see what you mean!!!

Sorry


I'll cancel my interview
Old 13 December 2006, 09:29 AM
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don't worry. most people i know who left university to move into consultancy were chinless wonders. those who had any personality quickly left to find something they actually enjoyed.
Old 13 December 2006, 09:30 AM
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That's the AVERAGE btw, some got more
Old 13 December 2006, 09:32 AM
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if you know anything about invesment finance and management, you could earn a packet too

a senior front office c# developer will be be £65-75K as a guage. the same c# developer with no front office knowledge would be on £40-45K elsewhere.
Old 13 December 2006, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
As per the article then..?


Goldman Sachs is to pay its staff more than £8bn ($15bn) in salaries, benefits and Christmas bonuses this year.
Aha, i see what you mean!!!

Sorry


I'll cancel my interview
It did say

Goldman Sachs is to pay its staff more than £8bn ($15m) in salaries, benefits and Christmas bonuses this year.

Before they edited it!

honest
Old 13 December 2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
if you know anything about invesment finance and management, you could earn a packet too

a senior front office c# developer will be be £65-75K as a guage. the same c# developer with no front office knowledge would be on £40-45K elsewhere.
There is no difference in the actual technical side of the job, it's just the banking experience they require, which isn't really that much for a tech job.

That and someone who doesn't get so completely and utterly bored out of their skull doing the same boring, uncreative thing day in, day out, day in, day out, etc zzzzzZZZZzzzz.
Old 13 December 2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
That's the AVERAGE btw, some got more
But Id bet more got less
Old 13 December 2006, 10:22 AM
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Very few at GS are on less than 100k basic. It's a different world to what most people are used to, even within investment banking. If you buy into the culture, it's a fabulous place to work.
Old 13 December 2006, 10:38 AM
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All of my friends in the city get a whopping bonus.
A very good friend at Ernst & Young got a not insignificant 6 figure one..... but then looking at what hours he works I am not surprised.
Old 13 December 2006, 10:48 AM
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Great if you like the lifestyle, but a friend of mine was a trader in NY for 13 years, now in London as a strategist, and the it's so competitive you don't have a life. (In the office by 6:30, back home at 10pm etc)

For the hours I actually work in the IT industry I reckon I'm on about £500k :-)
Old 13 December 2006, 10:52 AM
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I was just going to say i bet its not all one way.

family (if you have one) life must suffer.

The working day must be ridiculous
Old 13 December 2006, 10:56 AM
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You can try and convince yourself you wouldn't do it
Old 13 December 2006, 11:00 AM
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wonder if the shoe shine boy got to cash in
Old 13 December 2006, 11:02 AM
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I wouldn't, you can earn more than them in basic salary in IT if you are good enough - you just miss out the bonuses.

The fact is if you want to do it you are owned by the companies while you work for them. Plus they generally seem to be a humourless lot anyway. Far too serious for me.
Old 13 December 2006, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Freak
All of my friends in the city get a whopping bonus.
A very good friend at Ernst & Young got a not insignificant 6 figure one..... but then looking at what hours he works I am not surprised.
I used to be a senior manager at Ernst & Young, worked ridiculous hours and the wages were not that bad, BUT the bonuses were roughly 5k for back office senior management and NOT the kind of bonuses you hear about on the news. They always quote the average bonus which really p1sses me off as most get 1 or 2 thousand (if you're lucky) and a few get a few million.
Old 13 December 2006, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
The fact is if you want to do it you are owned by the companies while you work for them. Plus they generally seem to be a humourless lot anyway. Far too serious for me.

So sticking your finger out in the boardroom whilst saying 'pull my finger' and farting would not go down too well i take it?
Old 13 December 2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Great if you like the lifestyle, but a friend of mine was a trader in NY for 13 years, now in London as a strategist, and the it's so competitive you don't have a life. (In the office by 6:30, back home at 10pm etc)

For the hours I actually work in the IT industry I reckon I'm on about £500k :-)

Are you sure ? go down to pretty much any trading floor and it will be empty by 5.30, but sure to be populated before 7.30 am Brokers are even worse !
Old 13 December 2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
I was just going to say i bet its not all one way.

family (if you have one) life must suffer.

The working day must be ridiculous

Yep, I used to work for a large Swiss house in Equity Research, 7am - 7pm after my family came along i moved into back office
Old 13 December 2006, 11:42 AM
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That's what a lot of the guys around my area do, but then most are US expats so they stay longer while the US market is open too.
Old 13 December 2006, 12:30 PM
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Their top trader, head of their prop trading desk received a £50 million pound bonus.
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Originally Posted by marky1
Their top trader, head of their prop trading desk received a £50 million pound bonus.
Why would you bother working anymore?


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