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Old 16 November 2006, 11:51 PM
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UCLA Police Taser Student in Powell???

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Old 16 November 2006, 11:58 PM
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Teach the ****** a lesson

If the police say stand up then stand the **** up I say !!

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Old 17 November 2006, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Teach the ****** a lesson

If the police say stand up then stand the **** up I say !!

Andy
what kind of person are you?

the whole thing was just wrong and they took it well too far imho.

they are the ones that should be arrested.

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Old 17 November 2006, 12:11 AM
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Andy,

and if the police said to me stand up then I am sure I would stand up to! But he didn't.

My personal view is that not standing up but committing to leave as requested does not justify continued abuse. There was also significant risk that a larger event could have kicked off here and there was little evidence of control by the officers.

Certainly on this viewing it did not seem like a proportional response. He was not armed, there was no threat of violence and he did say he would leave as requested. For whatever reason he wanted to stand up in his own time.

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Old 17 November 2006, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
what kind of person are you?

the whole thing was just wrong and they took it well too far imho.

they are the ones that should be arrested.

james
If you listen carefully, he tells the police to **** off near the beginning of the clip. He certainly had enough strength for that, but apparently couldn't do something as simple as stand up. I say Taser the b@stard. Decent ordinary people have nothing to hide and will simply stand up.

Also quite funny that there just happened to be a video camera available at the right time.

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Old 17 November 2006, 12:21 AM
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lol.
Why did he feel the need to "stand up in his own time" like they didn't wait long enough or give him enough chances and warned him that if he didn't he would get tazered..

Hmm dont get up and get tazered or stand up and leave as requested...

Not a hard choice really..
Suppose he thinks he's big and clever "standing up in his own time"
That's just a stall to say I'll do it when I want cos I'm the boss, well sonny it doesn't work like that.


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Old 17 November 2006, 12:23 AM
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Hey - so he is a stubborn SOB
Old 17 November 2006, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
lol.
Why did he feel the need to "stand up in his own time" like they didn't wait long enough or give him enough chances and warned him that if he didn't he would get tazered..

Hmm dont get up and get tazered or stand up and leave as requested...

Not a hard choice really..
Suppose he thinks he's big and clever "standing up in his own time"
That's just a stall to say I'll do it when I want cos I'm the boss, well sonny it doesn't work like that.


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Well said.
Old 17 November 2006, 12:26 AM
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Just watched it again... he had 30 seconds to stand up and get the **** out...
and that was only from when the video started !!

How long does it take even with the polices help (they were trying to help I guess by the "dont touch me" screams) to stand up oooooohh let me see.. lol I just tried it, nice and gentle, don't want to make any sudden moves and get tazered

4 seconds !!!!


Andy

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Old 17 November 2006, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Hey - so he is a stubborn SOB

ergo deserves the cattle prod

Constitution this, ******* bzzzzzzz

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Old 17 November 2006, 12:29 AM
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have you any idea how difficult it is to stand up after getting tasered?
I know I wouldnt be able to do it.
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Old 17 November 2006, 12:32 AM
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30 secs before he got tazered the first time (according to the video anyway)
Old 17 November 2006, 01:07 AM
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If you've done nowt wrong then just do as they say
Think he was acting the big man and got zapped for his troubles
Old 17 November 2006, 01:31 AM
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That little idiot likes pain ...deserves everything he got imo

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Old 17 November 2006, 02:00 AM
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"Stand up or you get tazzed again" ??? what happend to handcuffs ?
Old 17 November 2006, 07:49 AM
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Very little/no crowd control or scene management witnessed from the police! they should of requested politely for the man to leave the building, asked a second time assertively then grabbed him, cuffed him and dragged him outside while telling all the other students to calm down carry on with their business... simple

Thing was they entered into a discussion with him and then randomly started 'zapping' him without dragging his **** outside!

Trouble in the US is every nutter may just be a nutter with a gun, so in a college or school situation you can't really blame them for over-reacting!
Old 17 November 2006, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by scooter(WRX03 PPP)
Also quite funny that there just happened to be a video camera available at the right time.
Not really if you think about it. I'm in an office with only 10 people in it, after a quick straw poll, we find that 8 off us possess something with the capacity to create a digital video recording. This guy obviously started his recording after the incident started, on the off chance that he'd catch something worth seeing.

I don't think in the circumstance the officers did over-react, as DCI says there's more than a good chance a nutter in the US is an armed nutter. If this guy had been armed, he would have found it pretty difficult to start blowing his fellow students away with 20k+ volts coursing through him



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Old 17 November 2006, 12:06 PM
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He was warned plenty of times so has now got sticky up hair.


Possibly sticky undies as well
Old 17 November 2006, 12:17 PM
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Serious abuse of power to use a tazer on him. That can be a very dangerous weapon and the circumstances did not warrant its use.

Les
Old 17 November 2006, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Serious abuse of power to use a tazer on him. That can be a very dangerous weapon and the circumstances did not warrant its use.

Les
Is it clear if they were 'campus security / private security or police'....... at the end the police appear to arrive en-mass but I can't make out who they are at the beginning?

As they may just be private campus security and there like feckin club doormen
Old 17 November 2006, 12:29 PM
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i would have just made sure i brought my library book back on time
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