radar guns need to be on a tripod?
04 November 2006, 01:13 PM
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radar guns need to be on a tripod?
is this true?
or was the copper that gave me a ticket last night giving me bull when he said it's just "pub talk" ?
or was the copper that gave me a ticket last night giving me bull when he said it's just "pub talk" ?
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06 November 2006, 12:15 PM
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How quick were you going?
If its the bill on the gun (and I think they are all laser now not radar) then the hypothercation rules dont apply. very difficult to get off.
If its the bill on the gun (and I think they are all laser now not radar) then the hypothercation rules dont apply. very difficult to get off.
06 November 2006, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Not true either.
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"Camera warning and speed limit reminder signs must be placed in advance of fixed or mobile speed enforcement taking place. Ideally these should be placed within 1 km of fixed camera [but in practice, can be upto 2miles] housings and at the beginning of a targeted route for mobile enforcement sites. Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are present or along routes where mobile enforcement will be targeted."
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06 November 2006, 06:11 PM
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There was no signs to say it was a 30. That why I was doing 53 
I can't remember any scamera signs either, but then again I probably wouldn't...they are everywhere now anyway
I can't remember any scamera signs either, but then again I probably wouldn't...they are everywhere now anyway
06 November 2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
Yes it is. A speed trap has to be within two miles of a sign. They are not allowed to setup a trap without fair warning.
"Camera warning and speed limit reminder signs must be placed in advance of fixed or mobile speed enforcement taking place. Ideally these should be placed within 1 km of fixed camera [but in practice, can be upto 2miles] housings and at the beginning of a targeted route for mobile enforcement sites. Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are present or along routes where mobile enforcement will be targeted."
"Camera warning and speed limit reminder signs must be placed in advance of fixed or mobile speed enforcement taking place. Ideally these should be placed within 1 km of fixed camera [but in practice, can be upto 2miles] housings and at the beginning of a targeted route for mobile enforcement sites. Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are present or along routes where mobile enforcement will be targeted."
Source? Guidelines or law? The wording suggests guidelines (thus legally meaningless).
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06 November 2006, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wish
53 in a 30 !!!!!
if anyone knows it it runs through oldham and theres a tescos on it
06 November 2006, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
you need to see the road really, its a dual carriageway, and I had just pulled onto it via a slip IIRC, from another road very similar that was signed 50.
if anyone knows it it runs through oldham and theres a tescos on it
if anyone knows it it runs through oldham and theres a tescos on it
I know it and 53 is not outrageous - the feckin' limit is
07 November 2006, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
Yes it is. A speed trap has to be within two miles of a sign. They are not allowed to setup a trap without fair warning.
"Camera warning and speed limit reminder signs must be placed in advance of fixed or mobile speed enforcement taking place. Ideally these should be placed within 1 km of fixed camera [but in practice, can be upto 2miles] housings and at the beginning of a targeted route for mobile enforcement sites. Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are present or along routes where mobile enforcement will be targeted."
Source? Guidelines or law? The wording suggests guidelines (thus legally meaningless).
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Originally Posted by Chris L
Yes it is. A speed trap has to be within two miles of a sign. They are not allowed to setup a trap without fair warning.
"Camera warning and speed limit reminder signs must be placed in advance of fixed or mobile speed enforcement taking place. Ideally these should be placed within 1 km of fixed camera [but in practice, can be upto 2miles] housings and at the beginning of a targeted route for mobile enforcement sites. Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are present or along routes where mobile enforcement will be targeted."
Source? Guidelines or law? The wording suggests guidelines (thus legally meaningless).
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not could be or might be ..........
07 November 2006, 07:05 AM
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I thought the guidlines were for hypothercation only. The police can set up a laser trap anywhere they dont havve to have signs if its the Bill, just civiliam operated traps.
07 November 2006, 09:47 AM
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News Release 517:
3 December 2001
Transport Minister John Spellar today announced that safety cameras will in future have to be bright yellow to maximise their visibility to motorists, and he set out strict new guidelines for the visibility and signing of cameras and camera sites.
The new rules state that:
* Camera housings must be yellow
* No camera housing should be obscured by bridges, signs, trees or bushes
* Cameras must be visible from 60 metres away in 40 mph or less areas and 100 metres for all other limits
* Camera warning and speed limit reminders must be placed within one kilometre of fixed and mobile camera sites
* Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are placed or where mobile cameras are used
* Mobile speed camera users must be highly visible by wearing fluorescent clothing and their vehicles marked with reflective strips
* Camera sites must be reviewed at least every six months to ensure that visibility and signing conditions are being met
The rules will be binding for every police force in and applying to join the netting-off scheme, where money from fines is re-invested in more cameras at dangerous places. National guidelines for other police force areas will be published in the new year by the DTLR and the Home Office.
In short - only binding if the fines go back to Bill's pocket.
3 December 2001
Transport Minister John Spellar today announced that safety cameras will in future have to be bright yellow to maximise their visibility to motorists, and he set out strict new guidelines for the visibility and signing of cameras and camera sites.
The new rules state that:
* Camera housings must be yellow
* No camera housing should be obscured by bridges, signs, trees or bushes
* Cameras must be visible from 60 metres away in 40 mph or less areas and 100 metres for all other limits
* Camera warning and speed limit reminders must be placed within one kilometre of fixed and mobile camera sites
* Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are placed or where mobile cameras are used
* Mobile speed camera users must be highly visible by wearing fluorescent clothing and their vehicles marked with reflective strips
* Camera sites must be reviewed at least every six months to ensure that visibility and signing conditions are being met
The rules will be binding for every police force in and applying to join the netting-off scheme, where money from fines is re-invested in more cameras at dangerous places. National guidelines for other police force areas will be published in the new year by the DTLR and the Home Office.
In short - only binding if the fines go back to Bill's pocket.
07 November 2006, 10:53 AM
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Hang on, are they guidelines or rules? They are different things.
You do not HAVE to adhere to guidelines, however you do have to adhere to the rules.
Anyway, are they rules for ALL forces?
The 'obscured' o ne is interesting, what defines obscured? Being able to see the WHOLE camera box from X distance? or seing PART of it?
These things are important as we know they like to bend the rules when it comes to cash generation.
You do not HAVE to adhere to guidelines, however you do have to adhere to the rules.
Anyway, are they rules for ALL forces?
The 'obscured' o ne is interesting, what defines obscured? Being able to see the WHOLE camera box from X distance? or seing PART of it?
These things are important as we know they like to bend the rules when it comes to cash generation.
07 November 2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
There was no signs to say it was a 30. That why I was doing 53
So where did you see the sign for 60?
07 November 2006, 08:00 PM
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News Release 517:
3 December 2001
Transport Minister John Spellar today announced that safety cameras will in future have to be bright yellow to maximise their visibility to motorists, and he set out strict new guidelines for the visibility and signing of cameras and camera sites.
The new rules state that:
* Camera housings must be yellow
* No camera housing should be obscured by bridges, signs, trees or bushes
* Cameras must be visible from 60 metres away in 40 mph or less areas and 100 metres for all other limits
* Camera warning and speed limit reminders must be placed within one kilometre of fixed and mobile camera sites
* Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are placed or where mobile cameras are used
* Mobile speed camera users must be highly visible by wearing fluorescent clothing and their vehicles marked with reflective strips
* Camera sites must be reviewed at least every six months to ensure that visibility and signing conditions are being met
The rules will be binding for every police force in and applying to join the netting-off scheme, where money from fines is re-invested in more cameras at dangerous places. National guidelines for other police force areas will be published in the new year by the DTLR and the Home Office.
In short - only binding if the fines go back to Bill's pocket.
3 December 2001
Transport Minister John Spellar today announced that safety cameras will in future have to be bright yellow to maximise their visibility to motorists, and he set out strict new guidelines for the visibility and signing of cameras and camera sites.
The new rules state that:
* Camera housings must be yellow
* No camera housing should be obscured by bridges, signs, trees or bushes
* Cameras must be visible from 60 metres away in 40 mph or less areas and 100 metres for all other limits
* Camera warning and speed limit reminders must be placed within one kilometre of fixed and mobile camera sites
* Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are placed or where mobile cameras are used
* Mobile speed camera users must be highly visible by wearing fluorescent clothing and their vehicles marked with reflective strips
* Camera sites must be reviewed at least every six months to ensure that visibility and signing conditions are being met
The rules will be binding for every police force in and applying to join the netting-off scheme, where money from fines is re-invested in more cameras at dangerous places. National guidelines for other police force areas will be published in the new year by the DTLR and the Home Office.
In short - only binding if the fines go back to Bill's pocket.
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