What causes condensation?
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What causes condensation?
In my flat we get condensation on the windows really bad - we are talking small puddles of water forming here! The windows are generally closed and the heating is still off just now. Preventative advice appreciated
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The only real answer is a de-humidifier, but theres the old trick of wiping almost neat washing up liquid on your windows which stops the water forming.
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What causes it? It's the moisture in the air, from you breathing out, sweating, cooking etc etc. In warm conditions, the air can hold lots of water as VAPOUR, (invisible water, as a gas, like steam). When the air cools, it can no longer hold so much water, so some of the water CONDENSES, ie: turns from vapour back into liquid water.
Since the windows are probably the coolest part of the house, the condensation occurs mostly here.
How can you stop it? Keeping the house warmer will do it. If the air is warmer, it'll hold the moisture as vapour, it won't condense.
I've recently bought a pretty good dehumidifier for our French property, and it works a treat. LITRES of water a day, for the first few days, then not so much.
Mine came from Wickes, cost around £120, and I'd recommend it.
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Since the windows are probably the coolest part of the house, the condensation occurs mostly here.
How can you stop it? Keeping the house warmer will do it. If the air is warmer, it'll hold the moisture as vapour, it won't condense.
I've recently bought a pretty good dehumidifier for our French property, and it works a treat. LITRES of water a day, for the first few days, then not so much.
Mine came from Wickes, cost around £120, and I'd recommend it.
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Originally Posted by dashpig
Piles of salt on plates in rooms also works very well for reducing moisture in the air - this is the method that's used for over-wintering caravans/motorhomes when not in use
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You're talking to a Scot remember!
The house has double-glazing!! Might borrow a dehumidifier to take the worst of the water out of the house and then generally keep it warmer. We are redeveloping the flat at the moment which will involve the installation of new heaters anyway.
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If its not too bad you can get a bowl with some rock salt crystals in fancy colours from most health food shops that can sit on window ledge this works, every now and then take them out pop them in microwave for a couple of mins and they work all over again, hth.
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Ours is bad also, UPVC double glazing but it still puddles, and we have no heating downstairs (still waiting for plumber to quote us after 2 months!!).
We bought an Ebac dehumidifier last year, but it died after a month so they sent us another, and that ones about to die as well I think
Luckily its under warranty for 3 years, so they can just keep fixing it for us or sending us a new one.
We bought an Ebac dehumidifier last year, but it died after a month so they sent us another, and that ones about to die as well I think
Luckily its under warranty for 3 years, so they can just keep fixing it for us or sending us a new one.
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The only problem I found with a de-humidifier was if it was left on over night i would wake up with a killer sore-throat as so much of the moisture in the air is taken out....which of course is the point of a de-humidifier , my point was to maybe turn it off over night.
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Mines is bad enough to puddle and you can even hear it dripping onto the window ledge during the night - it can keep you awake!! Any links for these fancy salts? (also how do they do their job?)
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Mines is bad enough to puddle and you can even hear it dripping onto the window ledge during the night - it can keep you awake!! Any links for these fancy salts? (also how do they do their job?)
As for how they work they are just salt (hydroscopic) which just absorbs moisture from the air, then the microwave just evaporates the gathered moisture off again.
Plain salt works but my wife would not like a bowl of saxo on display for the neighbours!!! (you could just put a bowl of salt out and cover it with a cloth, not waterproof obviously).HTH
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Caravan dealers also sell special kits for moisture absorbing, like a rectangular box with a grille lid, containing, I think, Silica gel crystals, which are better than salt for water absorbancy.
They can also be regenerated in an oven/microwave(??) but remember that this will just have the effect of putting the moisture straight back into the air.
Bite the bullet, get a Wickes dehumidifier, and turn it down at night: they have variable levels of humidity. Mine is set to 70% and neither I, nor my wife, suffers from sore throats etc while in France.
Mine is reliable too: I left it going all last winter to keep the house damp-free, with the drain openn and passed into the sink drain outlet, then blocked off with paper towel, so it wasn't just sucking in it's own moisture. It worked perfectly..
Oh, and when the drain on the dehumidifier is closed, it collects the distilled water it absorbs, which is used for the wife's steam iron............thus producing even more condensation
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They can also be regenerated in an oven/microwave(??) but remember that this will just have the effect of putting the moisture straight back into the air.
Bite the bullet, get a Wickes dehumidifier, and turn it down at night: they have variable levels of humidity. Mine is set to 70% and neither I, nor my wife, suffers from sore throats etc while in France.
Mine is reliable too: I left it going all last winter to keep the house damp-free, with the drain openn and passed into the sink drain outlet, then blocked off with paper towel, so it wasn't just sucking in it's own moisture. It worked perfectly..
Oh, and when the drain on the dehumidifier is closed, it collects the distilled water it absorbs, which is used for the wife's steam iron............thus producing even more condensation
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You can usually blame UPVC windows, unless the problem was there beforehand.
Most people fit these with no regaurd to the fact that the better sealing restricts the ventilation throughout the house. Causing a build up of stale and damp air. Simple science...humid air meets cold glass = condensation
Modern "good" UPVC windows will have vent slats at the top, but most do not, and without them your liable to get condesation problems in a badly ventilated house (i.e a flat, as they rarely have any form of decent through-ventilation ).
The cure is fresh air ventilation. So open a few windows, or at least leave a few on the the vent catch. Or knock in a few airbricks
Most people fit these with no regaurd to the fact that the better sealing restricts the ventilation throughout the house. Causing a build up of stale and damp air. Simple science...humid air meets cold glass = condensation
Modern "good" UPVC windows will have vent slats at the top, but most do not, and without them your liable to get condesation problems in a badly ventilated house (i.e a flat, as they rarely have any form of decent through-ventilation ).
The cure is fresh air ventilation. So open a few windows, or at least leave a few on the the vent catch. Or knock in a few airbricks
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Cheers for the advice - I'll look into the ventilation since we are redeveloping the place anyway. I'll also try to open windows more often, to have more heat in general and some fancy salts Failing that I'll get scuba gear
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
If its not too bad you can get a bowl with some rock salt crystals in fancy colours from most health food shops that can sit on window ledge this works, every now and then take them out pop them in microwave for a couple of mins and they work all over again, hth.
Can't see where the water is actually removed from the house using this method...
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
If its not too bad you can get a bowl with some rock salt crystals in fancy colours from most health food shops that can sit on window ledge this works, every now and then take them out pop them in microwave for a couple of mins and they work all over again, hth.
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Wouldn't the steam then just go from the microwave back out into the room?
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Wouldn't the steam then just go from the microwave back out into the room?
Can't see where the water is actually removed from the house using this method...
Can't see where the water is actually removed from the house using this method...
If you dont want to microwave them, you could just throw them out and buy new ones every time but as both myself and Saxo are Scots.
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