i want a Bentley
27 October 2006, 01:00 PM
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i want a Bentley
now my 7 series has gone i want a big comfy car for the yearly trips to paris and cornwall, so thinking turbo R or even a rolls silver spirit or spur, basically the same except i beleive the bentley should be quicker.
anyone got one they wanna sell, or know of any for sale, i think they go quite cheap now.
anyone got one they wanna sell, or know of any for sale, i think they go quite cheap now.
27 October 2006, 01:42 PM
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tbh i had an anarge whilst in dublin last weekend and i didn't really like it, i like the shape of the old bricks, plus as i have three child seats to fit in the back i would prefer a wide flat rear seat, although i beleive i can get one made my mulsanne or something extra
budget is low for these types of cars, up to say 20k is the limit unles the missus can put the car on her business then perhaps more
budget is low for these types of cars, up to say 20k is the limit unles the missus can put the car on her business then perhaps more
27 October 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by miltski
tbh i had an anarge whilst in dublin last weekend and i didn't really like it, i like the shape of the old bricks, plus as i have three child seats to fit in the back i would prefer a wide flat rear seat, although i beleive i can get one made my mulsanne or something extra
budget is low for these types of cars, up to say 20k is the limit unles the missus can put the car on her business then perhaps more
budget is low for these types of cars, up to say 20k is the limit unles the missus can put the car on her business then perhaps more
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28 October 2006, 01:01 AM
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Sounds like you want something with more poke than the average barge.
£20k will get you a decent S8
£20k will get you a decent S8
28 October 2006, 01:43 AM
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me too, watched one cross the peak district a month or so ago - he was watching the other side of the hill (dale?) and then overtaking on blind corners, presumably when he was certain there was no-one coming round the other side - amazing.
Did the same journey inthe scoob two weeks later - revelatory it was i tell yer
Did the same journey inthe scoob two weeks later - revelatory it was i tell yer
28 October 2006, 01:56 AM
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A mate did some development work with Bentley...
No flash GTi badges & stuff for them - apparently the different performance versions are distingished by the different colour of the Bentley logo in the centre of the hubs...
- not sure which is best - can't remember Sorry 
No flash GTi badges & stuff for them - apparently the different performance versions are distingished by the different colour of the Bentley logo in the centre of the hubs...
- not sure which is best - can't remember Sorry
28 October 2006, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Why buy a teutonic souless peice of tat when you could have a real car.
what is the souless tat and real car?
i thought about an s8 but i like the look of old barges, they seem to have character unlike the new audi's and bm's, which although have all the gadgets and power etc, dont seem to have any individuality, all new bm's and audi's seem to look the same, althought the safety and fuel economy of a newer car is appealing!
29 October 2006, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
I have a roller you can buy silver spur version 3. Royal blue Magnolia leather walnut dash (real walnut) mint condidtion. RR history. £21000
My first post should give a clue as to my opnions on these things. There is nothing on the road as cool as a Rolls Royce
29 October 2006, 02:03 AM
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The old school turbos are the best, much more about them than the new VW stuff (cough Phaeton) Cool, and f**k everyone else...if they don't "get" it, they never will, so let them run along in their souless euroboxes.
Now the best of the crop would be a Brooklands or RT model (or if you want 2 door continent R or a T ) and you should be looking at mid-90's onwards. These have more power (upto 420bhp and around 600lbft) better active suspension, 4speed auto with lock up (1500rpm@80mph ), closed loop sequential EFi and zytec engine managment so can get repectable MPG on a run (up to 25mpg on the motorway 
).
Older cars aren't as powerful, have 3 gears and no lockup, more floaty suspension, even scarier brakes and guzzle even more fuel. Plus you have extra age to contend with.
Rust is an issue on these cars, so get it checked out on a ramp with it raised in the air. Nothing structural, but it will quickly spread to visual parts of the body making it look like a tatty heap if not kept tip top.
Specialist Service history is a must and it MUST have old bills and invoices. These cars do go wrong, and they cost alot to put right. Generall the more proof of work carried out, the more likely you'll have a well kept car.
Suspension bush wear is common on all years and miles, most often noticed by uneven tyre wear
High miles: not an issue, these thing go forever if taken care of. But be aware, a car used everyday will see alot more rain and salty roads, bringing us back to the rust issue. Plus keep an eye on the leather
Low miles, not an issue either. But most will need a good blast from standing. It's not unusual to find cars with just 20Kmiles with an excess of 6 owners! So don't take that as a bad sign.
To drive? Well expect the thing to waft wanderfully on the open roads. But the ride can be a bit stiff and jarring at low speed with certain Bentley models (if its really bad, make sure active suspension is working ok ).
Power is always there on tap, floor it and expect a near instant kickdown and very little turbo lag...then say aloud..."Oh My God" You will not drive another car that weighs so much can shift as quickly as this. Traction control is crap in the wet, it will just cut the power dead or do kangaroo impressions, your better off learning how to drive properly so not to cause it to kick in unnessercarily
Handling, yes it can, be brave, it can go round corners quite well. But be aware the laws of physics do still apply.
Brakes: one word: scary. No feel, and they do fade. What you don't realise is this car can acheive such a high speed on the lanes that when you reach a sharp bend you suddenly realise your going far too fast and then find the brakes struggle to slow it. However sub 60mph they'll stop on a penny, the ABS is very effective...but they won't do it more than twice Warping discs happens quite easily (hot brakes, whilst stationary with foot held on brakes 
).
Not much else I can add, apart from tehse cars open doors and get a certain respect that you just don't get with the new GT/flying spur or any other brand.
Oh, and get a disabled badge, as parking the thing is a right b*tch
Can reccomend Broughtons of Surrey as a dealer. They also have a Cheltenham branch.
Cool, and f**k everyone else...if they don't "get" it, they never will, so let them run along in their souless euroboxes.Now the best of the crop would be a Brooklands or RT model (or if you want 2 door continent R or a T ) and you should be looking at mid-90's onwards. These have more power (upto 420bhp and around 600lbft) better active suspension, 4speed auto with lock up (1500rpm@80mph
), closed loop sequential EFi and zytec engine managment so can get repectable MPG on a run (up to 25mpg on the motorway ).Older cars aren't as powerful, have 3 gears and no lockup, more floaty suspension, even scarier brakes and guzzle even more fuel. Plus you have extra age to contend with.
Rust is an issue on these cars, so get it checked out on a ramp with it raised in the air. Nothing structural, but it will quickly spread to visual parts of the body making it look like a tatty heap if not kept tip top.
Specialist Service history is a must and it MUST have old bills and invoices. These cars do go wrong, and they cost alot to put right. Generall the more proof of work carried out, the more likely you'll have a well kept car.
Suspension bush wear is common on all years and miles, most often noticed by uneven tyre wear
High miles: not an issue, these thing go forever if taken care of. But be aware, a car used everyday will see alot more rain and salty roads, bringing us back to the rust issue. Plus keep an eye on the leather
Low miles, not an issue either. But most will need a good blast from standing. It's not unusual to find cars with just 20Kmiles with an excess of 6 owners! So don't take that as a bad sign.
To drive? Well expect the thing to waft wanderfully on the open roads. But the ride can be a bit stiff and jarring at low speed with certain Bentley models (if its really bad, make sure active suspension is working ok ).
Power is always there on tap, floor it and expect a near instant kickdown and very little turbo lag...then say aloud..."Oh My God" You will not drive another car that weighs so much can shift as quickly as this. Traction control is crap in the wet, it will just cut the power dead or do kangaroo impressions, your better off learning how to drive properly so not to cause it to kick in unnessercarily
Handling, yes it can, be brave, it can go round corners quite well. But be aware the laws of physics do still apply.
Brakes: one word: scary. No feel, and they do fade. What you don't realise is this car can acheive such a high speed on the lanes that when you reach a sharp bend you suddenly realise your going far too fast and then find the brakes struggle to slow it. However sub 60mph they'll stop on a penny, the ABS is very effective...but they won't do it more than twice
Warping discs happens quite easily (hot brakes, whilst stationary with foot held on brakes ).Not much else I can add, apart from tehse cars open doors and get a certain respect that you just don't get with the new GT/flying spur or any other brand.
Oh, and get a disabled badge, as parking the thing is a right b*tch
Can reccomend Broughtons of Surrey as a dealer. They also have a Cheltenham branch.
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29 October 2006, 07:39 AM
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The old school turbos are the best, much more about them than the new VW stuff (cough Phaeton) Cool, and f**k everyone else...if they don't "get" it, they never will, so let them run along in their souless euroboxes.
Now the best of the crop would be a Brooklands or RT model (or if you want 2 door continent R or a T ) and you should be looking at mid-90's onwards. These have more power (upto 420bhp and around 600lbft) better active suspension, 4speed auto with lock up (1500rpm@80mph ), closed loop sequential EFi and zytec engine managment so can get repectable MPG on a run (up to 25mpg on the motorway ).
Older cars aren't as powerful, have 3 gears and no lockup, more floaty suspension, even scarier brakes and guzzle even more fuel. Plus you have extra age to contend with.
Rust is an issue on these cars, so get it checked out on a ramp with it raised in the air. Nothing structural, but it will quickly spread to visual parts of the body making it look like a tatty heap if not kept tip top.
Specialist Service history is a must and it MUST have old bills and invoices. These cars do go wrong, and they cost alot to put right. Generall the more proof of work carried out, the more likely you'll have a well kept car.
Suspension bush wear is common on all years and miles, most often noticed by uneven tyre wear
High miles: not an issue, these thing go forever if taken care of. But be aware, a car used everyday will see alot more rain and salty roads, bringing us back to the rust issue. Plus keep an eye on the leather
Low miles, not an issue either. But most will need a good blast from standing. It's not unusual to find cars with just 20Kmiles with an excess of 6 owners! So don't take that as a bad sign.
To drive? Well expect the thing to waft wanderfully on the open roads. But the ride can be a bit stiff and jarring at low speed with certain Bentley models (if its really bad, make sure active suspension is working ok ).
Power is always there on tap, floor it and expect a near instant kickdown and very little turbo lag...then say aloud..."Oh My God" You will not drive another car that weighs so much can shift as quickly as this. Traction control is crap in the wet, it will just cut the power dead or do kangaroo impressions, your better off learning how to drive properly so not to cause it to kick in unnessercarily
Handling, yes it can, be brave, it can go round corners quite well. But be aware the laws of physics do still apply.
Brakes: one word: scary. No feel, and they do fade. What you don't realise is this car can acheive such a high speed on the lanes that when you reach a sharp bend you suddenly realise your going far too fast and then find the brakes struggle to slow it. However sub 60mph they'll stop on a penny, the ABS is very effective...but they won't do it more than twice Warping discs happens quite easily (hot brakes, whilst stationary with foot held on brakes ).
Not much else I can add, apart from tehse cars open doors and get a certain respect that you just don't get with the new GT/flying spur or any other brand.
Oh, and get a disabled badge, as parking the thing is a right b*tch
Can reccomend Broughtons of Surrey as a dealer. They also have a Cheltenham branch.
Cool, and f**k everyone else...if they don't "get" it, they never will, so let them run along in their souless euroboxes.Now the best of the crop would be a Brooklands or RT model (or if you want 2 door continent R or a T ) and you should be looking at mid-90's onwards. These have more power (upto 420bhp and around 600lbft) better active suspension, 4speed auto with lock up (1500rpm@80mph
), closed loop sequential EFi and zytec engine managment so can get repectable MPG on a run (up to 25mpg on the motorway ).Older cars aren't as powerful, have 3 gears and no lockup, more floaty suspension, even scarier brakes and guzzle even more fuel. Plus you have extra age to contend with.
Rust is an issue on these cars, so get it checked out on a ramp with it raised in the air. Nothing structural, but it will quickly spread to visual parts of the body making it look like a tatty heap if not kept tip top.
Specialist Service history is a must and it MUST have old bills and invoices. These cars do go wrong, and they cost alot to put right. Generall the more proof of work carried out, the more likely you'll have a well kept car.
Suspension bush wear is common on all years and miles, most often noticed by uneven tyre wear
High miles: not an issue, these thing go forever if taken care of. But be aware, a car used everyday will see alot more rain and salty roads, bringing us back to the rust issue. Plus keep an eye on the leather
Low miles, not an issue either. But most will need a good blast from standing. It's not unusual to find cars with just 20Kmiles with an excess of 6 owners! So don't take that as a bad sign.
To drive? Well expect the thing to waft wanderfully on the open roads. But the ride can be a bit stiff and jarring at low speed with certain Bentley models (if its really bad, make sure active suspension is working ok ).
Power is always there on tap, floor it and expect a near instant kickdown and very little turbo lag...then say aloud..."Oh My God" You will not drive another car that weighs so much can shift as quickly as this. Traction control is crap in the wet, it will just cut the power dead or do kangaroo impressions, your better off learning how to drive properly so not to cause it to kick in unnessercarily
Handling, yes it can, be brave, it can go round corners quite well. But be aware the laws of physics do still apply.
Brakes: one word: scary. No feel, and they do fade. What you don't realise is this car can acheive such a high speed on the lanes that when you reach a sharp bend you suddenly realise your going far too fast and then find the brakes struggle to slow it. However sub 60mph they'll stop on a penny, the ABS is very effective...but they won't do it more than twice
Warping discs happens quite easily (hot brakes, whilst stationary with foot held on brakes ).Not much else I can add, apart from tehse cars open doors and get a certain respect that you just don't get with the new GT/flying spur or any other brand.
Oh, and get a disabled badge, as parking the thing is a right b*tch
Can reccomend Broughtons of Surrey as a dealer. They also have a Cheltenham branch.
went and looked at one yesterday and i'm just investigating getting the rear seat changed, as i mentioned i really need a flat seat in the back to accomodate two booster seats and a baby seat(soon to be another child seat), can i assume the newer ones are the same dimensions as the older ones?
its actually nice i started a thread and have had some positive replies as before i've posted and been given some stick for my opinions/taste etc
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Originally Posted by miltski
some excellent advice thanks very much, hopefully1 5-20k should see me ok on an early 90's model looking at autotrader and fleaby for quides. just measured the dimensions and at nearly 7" wide and 17" long its a good 2" longer than my 7 series, fantastic!!!! insurance quote for a 92 is £350 fully comp so thats nice! 25 mpg is also quite pleasant, my 7 schnitzer gets around 9 round town and a bout 22-25 ona run loaded up with kids etc so should be about the same if not better.
went and looked at one yesterday and i'm just investigating getting the rear seat changed, as i mentioned i really need a flat seat in the back to accomodate two booster seats and a baby seat(soon to be another child seat), can i assume the newer ones are the same dimensions as the older ones?
its actually nice i started a thread and have had some positive replies as before i've posted and been given some stick for my opinions/taste etc
went and looked at one yesterday and i'm just investigating getting the rear seat changed, as i mentioned i really need a flat seat in the back to accomodate two booster seats and a baby seat(soon to be another child seat), can i assume the newer ones are the same dimensions as the older ones?
its actually nice i started a thread and have had some positive replies as before i've posted and been given some stick for my opinions/taste etc
I believe some models have removable rear centre consoles, they just pull out and you then have a full bench seat
All the models are more or less the same dimensions barring a couple of inches due to different bumpers etc.
I'd personally push for a post95 car as it has the much better gearbox and engine management
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just did some research arnt the newer 4 speed gear boxes more prone to disintegration?
i think newer anyway they things like abs and airbags don't they?
i think newer anyway they things like abs and airbags don't they?
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Not really, the GM 4L80 gearboxes aren't really any worse than the the old TH400 3 speed. Both are physically very strong boxes, but both can suffer equally from silly problems which normally ends up being billed as a full recon.
Plenty of Chevy trucks over in the USA run on the same 4L80-E gearbox for starship-like mileage with no problems. The biggest issue is there is more to go wrong, as its electronically controlled.
ABS was fitted standard waay back in the mid 1980s , Driver's airbags popped up in the early 90s (1993ish?) with passenger airbags being introduced a couple of years later.
Plenty of Chevy trucks over in the USA run on the same 4L80-E gearbox for starship-like mileage with no problems. The biggest issue is there is more to go wrong, as its electronically controlled.
ABS was fitted standard waay back in the mid 1980s , Driver's airbags popped up in the early 90s (1993ish?) with passenger airbags being introduced a couple of years later.
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Bentley Turbo R Overview (1995-1997)
In 1998 the company did verify that this model had been considered as having a separate identity. It had replaced the Bentley Turbo R which had been in production until 1994 and then Rolls-Royce introduced their "New" Bentley Turbo R" alongside their "New" R-R Silver Dawn", "New" R-R Silver Spur etc. In 1997 it has been superseded by the Bentley Turbo RT.
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Technical Data:
8 cylinder 90 degree V-configuration; aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder block with cast iron wet cylinder liners; bore x stroke 104.14 x 99.06 mm (4.1 x 3.9 in), capacity 6,750 cc; aluminium alloy cylinder heads, Zytec digital fuel injection and digital ignition, exhaust driven Garrett AirResearch turbocharger with intercooler; 4-speed automatic gearbox; independent suspension front and rear with automatic ride control; ventilated disc brakes front, plain discs rear, anti-locking device; wheelbase 3,061 mm (120.5 in) and 3,161 mm (124.5 in); tyre size 255/55WR17; max. speed 250 km/h
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Number Produced:
543 Bentley Turbo R
823 Bentley Turbo R Long Wheelbase
Bentley Continental T / Continental Mulliner (1996-2002)
2001 Bentley Continental T
The determination to leave no gap in their range of luxury high performance cars was the driving force to diversify by adding one more Driving Force. Performance and handling of the 1996 Bentley Continental T were without equal. As regards torque: 590 lb/ft (800Nm; from 1997 650 lb/ft 875Nm) positioned this car at the top. There existed no other passenger motor car in the world which came even near this figure - with one exception, the Bentley Turbo R Sport's engine delivered 553 lb/ft. The Bentley Continental T was a 2+2 coupé developed from the Bentley Continental R with a more athletic outward appearance due to a 4 in (10 cm) shorter wheelbase and extended front and rear wheel arches. The driver found an engine-turned dash with chrome finish instruments as a delicate reminiscence of the heyday of the British Racing Green Bentleys handled with verve by the 'Bentley Boys' - and as it had been during these heroes' time the Continental T's engine responded to a separate push-button starter.
Introduced in 1999 the Bentley Continental T Mulliner could be specified by a discerning Bentley driver as an out and out sports car - by comparison to the basic model - with almost no compromise. Modified shock absorbers in combination with stiffer torsion bars (front +40%, rear +20%) did permit to use the engine's most impressive power even under conditions, which previously might have been considered as beyond the limit.
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Technical Data:
8 cylinder 90 degree V-configuration; aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder block with cast iron wet cylinder liners; bore x stroke 104.14 x 99.06 mm (4.1 x 3.9 in), capacity 6,750 cc; (from MY1999 426bhp/313kW)aluminium alloy cylinder heads, Zytek EMS3 digital engine management, exhaust driven Garrett AirResearch turbocharger with intercooler; 4-speed automatic gearbox; independent suspension front and rear with adaptive ride control; ventilated disc brakes front, plain discs rear, anti locking device; wheelbase 2,959 mm (116.5 in); tyre size 285/45R18 (from 1997 tyre size 285/45ZR18) ; max. speed 155 mph (250 km/h) (from 1997 max. speed 273 km/h)
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Number Produced:
322 Bentley Continental T (1996-2002)
23 Bentley Continental T-Mulliner
5 Bentley Continental T-Le Mans
In 1998 the company did verify that this model had been considered as having a separate identity. It had replaced the Bentley Turbo R which had been in production until 1994 and then Rolls-Royce introduced their "New" Bentley Turbo R" alongside their "New" R-R Silver Dawn", "New" R-R Silver Spur etc. In 1997 it has been superseded by the Bentley Turbo RT.
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Technical Data:
8 cylinder 90 degree V-configuration; aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder block with cast iron wet cylinder liners; bore x stroke 104.14 x 99.06 mm (4.1 x 3.9 in), capacity 6,750 cc; aluminium alloy cylinder heads, Zytec digital fuel injection and digital ignition, exhaust driven Garrett AirResearch turbocharger with intercooler; 4-speed automatic gearbox; independent suspension front and rear with automatic ride control; ventilated disc brakes front, plain discs rear, anti-locking device; wheelbase 3,061 mm (120.5 in) and 3,161 mm (124.5 in); tyre size 255/55WR17; max. speed 250 km/h
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Number Produced:
543 Bentley Turbo R
823 Bentley Turbo R Long Wheelbase
Bentley Continental T / Continental Mulliner (1996-2002)
2001 Bentley Continental T
The determination to leave no gap in their range of luxury high performance cars was the driving force to diversify by adding one more Driving Force. Performance and handling of the 1996 Bentley Continental T were without equal. As regards torque: 590 lb/ft (800Nm; from 1997 650 lb/ft 875Nm) positioned this car at the top. There existed no other passenger motor car in the world which came even near this figure - with one exception, the Bentley Turbo R Sport's engine delivered 553 lb/ft. The Bentley Continental T was a 2+2 coupé developed from the Bentley Continental R with a more athletic outward appearance due to a 4 in (10 cm) shorter wheelbase and extended front and rear wheel arches. The driver found an engine-turned dash with chrome finish instruments as a delicate reminiscence of the heyday of the British Racing Green Bentleys handled with verve by the 'Bentley Boys' - and as it had been during these heroes' time the Continental T's engine responded to a separate push-button starter.
Introduced in 1999 the Bentley Continental T Mulliner could be specified by a discerning Bentley driver as an out and out sports car - by comparison to the basic model - with almost no compromise. Modified shock absorbers in combination with stiffer torsion bars (front +40%, rear +20%) did permit to use the engine's most impressive power even under conditions, which previously might have been considered as beyond the limit.
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Technical Data:
8 cylinder 90 degree V-configuration; aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder block with cast iron wet cylinder liners; bore x stroke 104.14 x 99.06 mm (4.1 x 3.9 in), capacity 6,750 cc; (from MY1999 426bhp/313kW)aluminium alloy cylinder heads, Zytek EMS3 digital engine management, exhaust driven Garrett AirResearch turbocharger with intercooler; 4-speed automatic gearbox; independent suspension front and rear with adaptive ride control; ventilated disc brakes front, plain discs rear, anti locking device; wheelbase 2,959 mm (116.5 in); tyre size 285/45R18 (from 1997 tyre size 285/45ZR18) ; max. speed 155 mph (250 km/h) (from 1997 max. speed 273 km/h)
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Number Produced:
322 Bentley Continental T (1996-2002)
23 Bentley Continental T-Mulliner
5 Bentley Continental T-Le Mans