Will Top Gear be castrated?
21 September 2006, 01:49 PM
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Will Top Gear be castrated?
In the light of the Hamster's crash what do you think the fall out for Top Gear will be?
I think at the very least they will stop the stunts. Although I could see it going back to being a factual show without JC like it was before. But ratings would go through the floor and it would probably be axed if that were to happen.
I think at the very least they will stop the stunts. Although I could see it going back to being a factual show without JC like it was before. But ratings would go through the floor and it would probably be axed if that were to happen.
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21 September 2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 555Rob555
The H&S exsecutive will have a field day. Don't expect "Star in a resonably priced car" to continue either.
The car crashed, it was a risk, but they had ensured that safety checks and emergency response units were available... so I can't see the H&S Exec issue....
21 September 2006, 02:12 PM
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Basically, Richard was being paid (was he ??) to do this stunt / job. therefor this makes it an 'at work' situation, hence HSE getting involved.
Don't go ribbing the HSE already, they are doing their job same as Richard was his, Jeremy his, ambulance driver his etc.
HSE get involved when their is a significant issue in an 'at work' situation, nothing more .
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Don't go ribbing the HSE already, they are doing their job same as Richard was his, Jeremy his, ambulance driver his etc.
HSE get involved when their is a significant issue in an 'at work' situation, nothing more .
Steve
21 September 2006, 02:18 PM
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I'm surprised it's not happened before, though we know most of the challenges, for example the "turn your car into a boat" are staged, but you do wonder how close things might actually be.
Accidents happen and this is an unfortunate case of just that. Hopefully the ol hamster will be back on his feet soon.
Accidents happen and this is an unfortunate case of just that. Hopefully the ol hamster will be back on his feet soon.
21 September 2006, 02:25 PM
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think the HSE wil say everything that was done as it shold have been, the safety guy they interviewed was quiet happy with the prcautions taken, after all his injuries are to do with motion changes not direct injuroes such as roll cage failing and crushing him
21 September 2006, 02:30 PM
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its a case of **** happens
they new the risks and unfortunatly the element of chance happened.
But one word thats been banded around the news is that it was a STUNT, it wasnt really was it, it was a record attempt. Someting which is attempted every day world wide, just some records are more dangerous than others.
They are dragging up past stunts are trying to portray todays presenters and producers as being wreckless, its simply not the case
they new the risks and unfortunatly the element of chance happened.
But one word thats been banded around the news is that it was a STUNT, it wasnt really was it, it was a record attempt. Someting which is attempted every day world wide, just some records are more dangerous than others.
They are dragging up past stunts are trying to portray todays presenters and producers as being wreckless, its simply not the case
21 September 2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkStar66
In the light of the Hamster's crash what do you think the fall out for Top Gear will be?
I think at the very least they will stop the stunts. Although I could see it going back to being a factual show without JC like it was before. But ratings would go through the floor and it would probably be axed if that were to happen.
I think at the very least they will stop the stunts. Although I could see it going back to being a factual show without JC like it was before. But ratings would go through the floor and it would probably be axed if that were to happen.
bleedin pc brigade and the nanny state , i wish they would p%%s off !!
there that has made me feel all warm inside , ahhh bleedin coffee is too hot , ban that
21 September 2006, 02:37 PM
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, ahhh bleedin coffee is too hot , ban that
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21 September 2006, 02:48 PM
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Jeremy Vine had people calling in at lunchtime on this same topic. Most agreed with the makority here - i.e. it's dangerous but that's what he wanted to do. Life's a b!tch sometimes! They even had an ex-bike drag racer (champion in the early 90s0 who had had an off and was now paraplegic. He said that he would live his life exactly as before if he had the chance.
The only dissenting voice was a woman who rang and said 'but he should think of his loved ones as well, it's not just about him' .... Sorry love, I take your point but everyone has loved ones and I'm sure they would not be happy if they stopped you doing what you loved. I know my wife doesn't stop me doing anything I was doing for long before we met, motorcycling, skiing, etc, whereas a lot of wives say 'oooh, can't do that now. You've a family to think of!'.
It seems that the Hampster has a loving family that doesn't try to keep him wrapped in cotton wool 'just in case' and for that he's a lucky man. That way means everyone wins.
Hope he's up and about soon.
Dave
The only dissenting voice was a woman who rang and said 'but he should think of his loved ones as well, it's not just about him' .... Sorry love, I take your point but everyone has loved ones and I'm sure they would not be happy if they stopped you doing what you loved. I know my wife doesn't stop me doing anything I was doing for long before we met, motorcycling, skiing, etc, whereas a lot of wives say 'oooh, can't do that now. You've a family to think of!'.
It seems that the Hampster has a loving family that doesn't try to keep him wrapped in cotton wool 'just in case' and for that he's a lucky man. That way means everyone wins.
Hope he's up and about soon.
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21 September 2006, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby595
Basically, Richard was being paid (was he ??) to do this stunt / job. therefor this makes it an 'at work' situation, hence HSE getting involved.
Don't go ribbing the HSE already, they are doing their job same as Richard was his, Jeremy his, ambulance driver his etc.
HSE get involved when their is a significant issue in an 'at work' situation, nothing more .
Steve
Don't go ribbing the HSE already, they are doing their job same as Richard was his, Jeremy his, ambulance driver his etc.
HSE get involved when their is a significant issue in an 'at work' situation, nothing more .
Steve
21 September 2006, 03:14 PM
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If the Beeb ****can the show, SKY or someone will snap it and the presenters up.
JC and JM will probably hold it together with the Beeb. He was taking part in a Record Attempt not a stunt. The emergency services etc where there and no doubt all the H&S stuff was done. BUT, let's not speculate just yet.
Mindy Hammond as already said " She understands what happens and still loves him to bit's".
So Sod the TV for now and think of The Hamster and his family.
JC and JM will probably hold it together with the Beeb. He was taking part in a Record Attempt not a stunt. The emergency services etc where there and no doubt all the H&S stuff was done. BUT, let's not speculate just yet.
Mindy Hammond as already said " She understands what happens and still loves him to bit's".
So Sod the TV for now and think of The Hamster and his family.
21 September 2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
Top Gear will not be the same without Hamster.
Even if he recovers he may well be disabled in some way, a crying shame !!
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Even if he recovers he may well be disabled in some way, a crying shame !!
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**** me............. You're a cheery barsteward..........
21 September 2006, 03:29 PM
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I thought he was already disabled - being 5 foot ****-all!
Hope he makes a speedy recovery and gets back to his old ways soon.
Hope he makes a speedy recovery and gets back to his old ways soon.
Originally Posted by scoobfan
Top Gear will not be the same without Hamster.
Even if he recovers he may well be disabled in some way, a crying shame !!
Rob
Even if he recovers he may well be disabled in some way, a crying shame !!
Rob
21 September 2006, 03:36 PM
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nothing will change imo, it was an accident, so what, things happen all the time, it wasnt a stunt but like someone has stated it was a valid record attempt, he will be back on the show and top gear will live on!
21 September 2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
**** me............. You're a cheery barsteward..........
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21 September 2006, 03:53 PM
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By the sound of it, being a shortarse might have saved his bacon, if it was Clarkson his head would have been driven another 18 inches into the ground.
I would hope it wouldn't affect the show, its about fast cars and cars crash some times. People crash all the time in motorsport and they don't ban it.
Presumably the show is insured for that sort of thing.
It sounds like they were taking all possible precautions, what more could they do.
I don't think the would be able to go back to the old format, The presenters wouldn't do it and I don't think anyone would watch it anyways.
Hope he makes a quick and full recovery.
I would hope it wouldn't affect the show, its about fast cars and cars crash some times. People crash all the time in motorsport and they don't ban it.
Presumably the show is insured for that sort of thing.
It sounds like they were taking all possible precautions, what more could they do.
I don't think the would be able to go back to the old format, The presenters wouldn't do it and I don't think anyone would watch it anyways.
Hope he makes a quick and full recovery.
21 September 2006, 08:00 PM
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My worry is all the PC nimbys will have a field day and use this as ammunition to stop Top gear in its current form.
They were complaining before, and no doubt they will use this a justification for their cause.
Crying shame. I just hope the decision makers use common their sense and not bow down to them (as before). Hammond knew the risks, safety precautions were taken and little else could be done.
I hope he pulls through this, as does the show. It's the only thing worthy of paying the TV license.
They were complaining before, and no doubt they will use this a justification for their cause.
Crying shame. I just hope the decision makers use common their sense and not bow down to them (as before). Hammond knew the risks, safety precautions were taken and little else could be done.
I hope he pulls through this, as does the show. It's the only thing worthy of paying the TV license.
21 September 2006, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
If the Beeb ****can the show, SKY or someone will snap it and the presenters up.
JC and JM will probably hold it together with the Beeb. He was taking part in a Record Attempt not a stunt. The emergency services etc where there and no doubt all the H&S stuff was done. BUT, let's not speculate just yet.
Mindy Hammond as already said " She understands what happens and still loves him to bit's".
So Sod the TV for now and think of The Hamster and his family.
JC and JM will probably hold it together with the Beeb. He was taking part in a Record Attempt not a stunt. The emergency services etc where there and no doubt all the H&S stuff was done. BUT, let's not speculate just yet.
Mindy Hammond as already said " She understands what happens and still loves him to bit's".
So Sod the TV for now and think of The Hamster and his family.