Dracoro

Are muslims REALLY getting all up in arms (literally?) about the pope story? Or is it just the media whipping up an anti-muslim storm etc. After all, has anyone actually SEEN these muslims getting up in arms? Certainly not on my high street. Or are they just going to somewhere like bradford and finding a street with some loonies in, paying them some cash, giving some of them some pictures of the pope to burn and so on. Bit like Damian in Drop the dead donkey

So in other words, we've all read about it, but how many of us have actually seen these protests?

Hoppy

Are you suggesting that our esteemed media would stoop so low? Well, if you're not, I am

You don't need to do a Dead Donkey thing, just pop up to the local mosque and ask a few leading questions. No Muslim cleric is going to agree with the Pope is he? And you've got the story.

No smoke without fire though, and there has been a burning of Popish effigies in the middle east. I think they missed a trick there, though. Should have cut his head off with a plastic knife from McDonalds, or blown him to bits at least

Richard.

d5hof

the pope and his advisors are not that stupid, they knew this would create uproar. I think its all a publicity stunt otherwise why quote such a thing? what was so relevant to quote that? also if you look back at the history of christianity theres nothing mohammad (pbuh) did with his swords that christians havent done yet!!!

my theory:

few media tycoons pump money into vatican every now and then, vatican needs money, so they create this uproar so media can make money and has sufficient funds to pump into vatican.

Hoppy

Are you suggesting that the Papacy is motivated by money, and that Christianity is not entirely blemish-free? You'll go downstairs for that - it's written, so it must be true

Next you'll be saying that America's interest in the middle east has something to do with oil

And I might just agree with you. Sadly

d5hof

don't be silly, america is involved with middle east because they want a peaceful world.

gatty

we all want to be elswhere to get some kind of benifit from that country, be it oil ....... or .........welfare/prosperity. we get oil they get a good life in the west

Hoppy

DOH! Silly me. Didn't America invade Iraq because Saddam was personally responsible for 9/11? Or if he wasn't, he sure as hell would have liked to have been. Or was it because he had stacks of WMD? Or was it because God told Bush to do it (bizarrely some truth in that, I believe). Or maybe lots of oil was an appealing side benefit. My, my, that's a lot of good reasons, isn't it

Nope, you're quite right. It was all in the interests of world peace, and that mission has been 100% successful. Just look at all those happy, smiling Iraqis America is also rejoicing. And we're thrilled to bits here in the UK, aren't we.

Actually, the only people who seem to regards the current state of Iraq as a bit of a result is Al Qaeda, those who actually were responsible for 9/11. You couldn't write a worse disaster scenario.

What an utter, ******* mess. With no end in sight.

Richard.

d5hof

couldn't have said it any better

Leslie

Quite right Hoppy.

Les

lozgti

God's Rottweiller.

Did I read that a gunman has shot an Italian Nun?