Nightclub owners/owned
06 August 2006, 07:18 PM
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You need to find a premises apply for a change of use if its not a night club already then apply for a premises license and also a personal licence and a licence for any staff that will be on site as a personal license holder must be on the premisies at all times. A personal license can only be got when you have been on a licenseing course. After that its easy just arrange staff opening building work marketing etc. Licensing commitees meet every three months usually and are simple enopugh to deal with once the police are happy with you. THe police will require you to explain your anti drugs policies etc before they will support your application in court. THe hard part is the planning officers who are in general completely inept, brain dead and don't know their **** from their elbow.
06 August 2006, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
how have you got the bank behind you if you havent got that far?
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06 August 2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
how have you got the bank behind you if you havent got that far?
a case of 'if they do it so will we', its happened before with another business i have when i looked for investment
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06 August 2006, 09:55 PM
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My dad was in this sort of game. It was quite a few years back, and it was in innercity London. All I can say is be prepared for drugs and violence, because they seem to be attracted to such places like flies to ****e.
I've considered going back into the game again a few times but the memory of being threatened by drug dealers wanting to sell in our premises puts me off. If I did, it would be with an angle that minimised the potential for such things ie lapdance club ( I'm not joking), over 35s club, private members club or anything else that puts off the 18-30 year old gansters.
Good luck and be careful.
I've considered going back into the game again a few times but the memory of being threatened by drug dealers wanting to sell in our premises puts me off. If I did, it would be with an angle that minimised the potential for such things ie lapdance club ( I'm not joking), over 35s club, private members club or anything else that puts off the 18-30 year old gansters.
Good luck and be careful.
06 August 2006, 10:01 PM
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I take it that you plan to open in Falkirk ??
Isnt there a nightclub there that you go upstairs too, some chocolate gangster owns it if my memory serves me right ??
Isnt there a nightclub there that you go upstairs too, some chocolate gangster owns it if my memory serves me right ??
06 August 2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Suuba
Well they'll accept the agreement only if 'x' and 'z' put money into it..it was quite hard with the bank tho' as they seemed to thro a wobbly as soon the words "nightclub, loan and me" were mentioned
a case of 'if they do it so will we', its happened before with another business i have when i looked for investment
a case of 'if they do it so will we', its happened before with another business i have when i looked for investment
good luck in what you want to do
btw lappdancing is the way to make big £££
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07 August 2006, 03:55 PM
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Why the desire to run a nightclub when you appear to know so little about it?
It is next to impossible to give any advice without knowing where it is going to be, what the competition is etc. The first problem will be licencing where not only will you have the police to worry about but local residents etc.
Then there is the drugs issue, and of course the drink issue, when all the local residents complain about the drunkards leaving the property.
Nightclubs need that elusive something which no on quite knows what it is to work, unless thay are the only one.
Personally I doubt that lap dancing is a great money spinner, as all the profitable locations have probably been done now. Real money is to be made by being at the forefront of the new thing, not the rearguard!
It is next to impossible to give any advice without knowing where it is going to be, what the competition is etc. The first problem will be licencing where not only will you have the police to worry about but local residents etc.
Then there is the drugs issue, and of course the drink issue, when all the local residents complain about the drunkards leaving the property.
Nightclubs need that elusive something which no on quite knows what it is to work, unless thay are the only one.
Personally I doubt that lap dancing is a great money spinner, as all the profitable locations have probably been done now. Real money is to be made by being at the forefront of the new thing, not the rearguard!
07 August 2006, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Give me a few weeks, I start at Falkirk Council planning department tomorrow morning
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08 August 2006, 07:12 PM
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Why do nearly all nightclubs either go bankrupt or close so many times?
A place near one of my offices has changed owners and been refurbed atleast 6 times in the last 3 years!!
A place near one of my offices has changed owners and been refurbed atleast 6 times in the last 3 years!!
08 August 2006, 07:25 PM
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I think nightclubs are a get in, make the money get out affair I think the idea is for your club to be popular as hell for 2-5 years and then to sell up before it goes downhill. The chances of a club remaining popular and turning solid profits year after year without a complete makeover are really slim IMHO unless they have an area monopoly (i.e. only club in the town)
I think the idea is for your club to be popular as hell for 2-5 years and then to sell up before it goes downhill. The chances of a club remaining popular and turning solid profits year after year without a complete makeover are really slim IMHO unless they have an area monopoly (i.e. only club in the town)
08 August 2006, 07:31 PM
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^ what Saxo said. you usually get 2-3 years being popular before people go elsewhere. Even the big big ones owned by Luminar leusure (and others) have a £££ refit every 3-4 years. Of course a lot fail and never get popular at all. They often change name due to other clubs taking legal action as well.
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