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Old 27 July 2006, 09:43 PM
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Default how can i identify platinum from rhodium ???

ie if you had lots of teeny flake pieces infront of you ???


also palladium ?
Old 27 July 2006, 10:19 PM
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Rhodium has a higher melting point than Platinum and is also not attacked by acids.

More so, I may sound like I know what I'm on about. But really, I haven't a f**king clue. But Wikipedia has loads of info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodium

PS - Palladium - old TV show, as in "Live at the London Palladium". Is easy to see the difference between ****e comedians and Platinum. I'm surprised you even need to ask.
Old 27 July 2006, 11:27 PM
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EDAX (energy Dispersive X Ray Analysis).......... you need an electron Microscope used it all the time for my PhD LOL

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Old 27 July 2006, 11:38 PM
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You could weigh the flake, then measure the volume of water it displaces, giving you the density.
Old 27 July 2006, 11:42 PM
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take it down the assay office.. / ask a copper
Old 28 July 2006, 10:40 AM
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I have this problem almost every day too!
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Show them to a woman, i'd have money she will identify the platinum everytime, probably with her eyes closed.



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Don't have a clue what rhodium actually is, but if its more expensive than platinum, the platinum is the one that she doesn't choose

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Old 28 July 2006, 12:33 PM
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I prefer Cornflakes myself. The others taste so metallic
Old 28 July 2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby.Newbie
Show them to a woman, i'd have money she will identify the platinum everytime, probably with her eyes closed.



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Don't have a clue what rhodium actually is, but if its more expensive than platinum, the platinum is the one that she doesn't choose


had my [wedding] ring cleaned and polished today . the jeweller said that platinum can be quite dull so he tends to polish it with rhodium. again, i don;t know what rhodium is but i know it has a nice a shine to it
Old 28 July 2006, 05:14 PM
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apples24, are you a dental technician?
Old 28 July 2006, 05:20 PM
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wikipedia link above says "Rhodium is a chemical element in the periodic table that has the symbol Rh and atomic number 45. A rare silvery-white hard transition metal, rhodium is a member of the platinum group, is found in platinum ores and is used in alloys with platinum and as a catalyst. It is the most expensive precious metal."

hmmm. apparently i now have rhodium all round my ring
all adds to the value i guess
Old 28 July 2006, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by richardg
hmmm. apparently i now have rhodium all round my ring
all adds to the value i guess
sounds painful...



















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Old 28 July 2006, 05:49 PM
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Rhodium is the stuff they plate onto normal gold to make it white gold. Every year or so I need to get my rings re-Rhodiumed.

Why do you need to be able to tell the difference between them? Are you being offered some flakes to buy.....?
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no but im looking at a cool 200 grams of platinum flakes/bits once ive finished what im in the middle of doing and theres a chance of some rhodium bits too
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to sell m8 i believe a gramm is worth 22 quid or am i wrong?
Old 28 July 2006, 08:21 PM
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Hardness test.

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Old 28 July 2006, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by apples24
to sell m8 i believe a gramm is worth 22 quid or am i wrong?
Half ounce is £30 in my area
Old 28 July 2006, 08:29 PM
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you on bout pot or platinum ? lol


serious ? 15 odd gramms of scrap platinum is 30 quid?
Old 29 July 2006, 08:12 AM
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if i recall, any precious material (gold silver etc) needs an assay mark, if you try to sell without one you could find mr C&E paying you a visit

could be seen as vat evasion


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Old 29 July 2006, 08:39 AM
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were this platinum comes from it never has any marks
Old 29 July 2006, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by apples24
were this platinum comes from it never has any marks
Have you been collecting it from roundabouts or near speed bumps? Bits of it come out of catalytic converters. Probably palladium too.
Old 29 July 2006, 08:05 PM
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yes m8 it comes from cats

i own a recovery truck been collecting cats from the scrappers ive collected
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