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Old 25 April 2006, 10:08 AM
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Default Housing market on the up

No signs of the oft-talked about crash yet then:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...ixcitytop.html
Old 25 April 2006, 10:25 AM
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What % were re-mortgages though? Bound to be loads of mortgage business when rates are low and there are less tie-ins than say 5 years ago.

But I also agree that a crash isn't immenent
Old 25 April 2006, 10:26 AM
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They talk it up, they talk it down these reports come out just to 'massage' the overall trend.
Old 25 April 2006, 10:30 AM
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FTB's were up marginally last month, but I would think the balance of the borrowing was remortgage with increase borrowing to pay off credit cards and loans, then a few quid spare to keep the high street in action. The article gives the full picture, but doesn't seem to notice that they could be related
Old 25 April 2006, 10:32 AM
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Loads of houses currently for sale with 'no chain involved'.

Wonder how many of those are repossessions or investors offloading properties they can't rent out?
Old 25 April 2006, 10:40 AM
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Estate Agents are always on about how the very high prices can be maintained, because of the "strong underlying fundamentals", but are they really that strong?...

- Unemployment is has gone up for the last 13 months, Febs increase being the biggest since '92
- Consumer debt at record levels
- Interest rates are likely to rise due to increasing inflation and rates in other markets such as US, Japan on the up
- Bankrupsies and repos have been increasing steadily for about a year

Many economists predict a deep recession around 2008-10, and I would imagine this will be the trigger for the housing market crash. Sadly for FTB's it looks like they've still got a few years of silly prices to contend with if they want to buy!
Old 25 April 2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Many economists predict a deep recession around 2008-10
Many FTB who can't afford housing say this too

I like the fact they have predicted a 3 year window

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Old 25 April 2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Many FTB who can't afford housing say this too

I like the fact they have predicted a 3 year window
In the same way that many home owners predict prices will rocket forever
Old 25 April 2006, 10:45 AM
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I couldn't care less.

I have a fair bit of equity, and need a house to live in......what do I care?
Old 25 April 2006, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I couldn't care less.

I have a fair bit of equity, and need a house to live in......what do I care?
Because the amount of equity is related to the value maybe
Old 25 April 2006, 10:52 AM
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If I ever thought I'd get in to negaive equity I'd be worried.

The fact remains that I can afford a 4 bed detached house, and the repayments are smaller than a FTB.
Old 25 April 2006, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
If I ever thought I'd get in to negaive equity I'd be worried.
Why? Negative Equity only means anything if you ever plan to sell the house.
Old 25 April 2006, 11:16 AM
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Exactly, but circumstances can change.

It might not bother me......but if for some reason I have to move for work/redundancy, then it could be a problem.
Old 25 April 2006, 11:17 AM
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it only concerns those who buy/sell houses quickly to make money. For the rest of us buying homes to live in for xx years then it doesnt
Old 25 April 2006, 11:51 AM
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"House prices to double in next 10 years"

= 7% compound pa, hardly pie in the sky
Old 25 April 2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
"House prices to double in next 10 years"

= 7% compound pa, hardly pie in the sky
It is when you consider that they're 50% overvalued currently.

These figures are just signs of a dead cat bouncing.
Old 25 April 2006, 12:50 PM
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Question Calling MikeCardiff

Prediction from 31 January 2006 post #40.

How are prices in Cardiff? Only 3 months to go.
Old 25 April 2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
It is when you consider that they're 50% overvalued currently.

These figures are just signs of a dead cat bouncing.
??? no they arent - you are jsut making figures up!
Old 25 April 2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
??? no they arent - you are jsut making figures up!
Long term trend is 3.7x avg national income. Current figure is 5.6x
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