Is it just me,or is anyone else unimpressed with LCD tv's.
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Is it just me,or is anyone else unimpressed with LCD tv's.
A well set up Plasma can look awesome,but i've yet to see an LCD that looks anything other than flat and grainy.
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Originally Posted by paulr
A well set up Plasma can look awesome,but i've yet to see an LCD that looks anything other than flat and grainy.
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I have an excellent 40" LCD television and I disagree. Perhaps youre looking at the cheap-end of the market? You cant cut corners with an LCD...
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I've looked at loads,and with an open mind.
Whats the general consensus to picture quality CRT,Plasma or LCD. Which gives the best picture all thing being equal.
Whats the general consensus to picture quality CRT,Plasma or LCD. Which gives the best picture all thing being equal.
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I think there are pros and cons to both. I think plasmas have a smoother picture but the colours are not as good as LCD. Plasmas can only be watched in front of you but LCDs can be watched from any angle. I'd go for LCD. I'm about to move into my first house and looking at the 32" Toshiba LCD. Gets top write ups.
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Originally Posted by paulg1979
I think there are pros and cons to both. I think plasmas have a smoother picture but the colours are not as good as LCD. Plasmas can only be watched in front of you but LCDs can be watched from any angle. I'd go for LCD. I'm about to move into my first house and looking at the 32" Toshiba LCD. Gets top write ups.
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I'm looking at replacing my aging 20" Sony CRT Widescreen T.V in the bedroom. When I went into Dixons to look at the range of LCD T.V's at around that size, I wasn't impressed. Can anyone recommend a 20 - 23" HD ready LCD T.V?
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havnt got one but will go plasma,
lcd's dont give a realistic picture, its like setting everything onto either hard or soft focus, there is no natural element.
dont know what the "colours are better issue" is, the colours on an lcd are oversaturated,
dosent mater if there properly set up or not, they still give crap resoloution close up.. you dont have a mandatory exclusion or watching zone.. if i watch the tv from 3 feet away i expect the picture to be the same as 10 feet away. lcd,s dont do it.
plasma not perfect but more akin to relality
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lcd's dont give a realistic picture, its like setting everything onto either hard or soft focus, there is no natural element.
dont know what the "colours are better issue" is, the colours on an lcd are oversaturated,
dosent mater if there properly set up or not, they still give crap resoloution close up.. you dont have a mandatory exclusion or watching zone.. if i watch the tv from 3 feet away i expect the picture to be the same as 10 feet away. lcd,s dont do it.
plasma not perfect but more akin to relality
mart
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Originally Posted by jpor
I'm looking at replacing my aging 20" Sony CRT Widescreen T.V in the bedroom. When I went into Dixons to look at the range of LCD T.V's at around that size, I wasn't impressed. Can anyone recommend a 20 - 23" HD ready LCD T.V?
When people buy LCD's do they notice a huge improvement over the shop picture with a direct feed?
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Originally Posted by tonymontana
LCD is the way forward. LCD uses less power & they last a lot longer than the power hungry Plasma TVs.
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It comes down to personal preference.
I personally have not seen a Plasma screen in action, apart from my local electrical store. Where as most of my friends have LCD screens and I have been lucky enough to view DVDs playing, PS2s, and Xbox 360s (running HD)... And i've been impressed enough by the picture quality, that a LCD screen would be suitable for my needs.
I don't think there is any right or wrong answer to your question...
It's bit like Evos vs Imprezas, do the same job but with slight differences. And only your personal preference between the two would be able sway your decision one way or the other...
I personally have not seen a Plasma screen in action, apart from my local electrical store. Where as most of my friends have LCD screens and I have been lucky enough to view DVDs playing, PS2s, and Xbox 360s (running HD)... And i've been impressed enough by the picture quality, that a LCD screen would be suitable for my needs.
I don't think there is any right or wrong answer to your question...
It's bit like Evos vs Imprezas, do the same job but with slight differences. And only your personal preference between the two would be able sway your decision one way or the other...
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Originally Posted by tonymontana
I still reckon LCD will phase Plasma out eventually.
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The colour reproduction on Sony's Bravia range is clearly superior to other LCDs. You can see the difference if you see a KDLV(/W)40 running alongside the cheaper KDLS40 sets. They use the same LCD panel but the huge difference comes from the superior driver boards.
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I disagree. My mates LG HD ready LCD (new generation LCD....faster reponse/better contrast etc) has a superb picture....and I haven't seen it do any high def stuff yet. Good wide viewing angle too.
Sound is crap. But that why you buy a decent a/v system to go with it
The big Pioneer plasmas are still very good, but then, they are mega £££££.
Sound is crap. But that why you buy a decent a/v system to go with it
The big Pioneer plasmas are still very good, but then, they are mega £££££.
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Plasma scrrens have a limited life normally around 3000 viewing hours although this has increased somewhat.
Persoanlly I've seen good and bad on both and nothing to challenge a very hgih end CRT set quite yet. The best screens I have seen have been Sagem, Panasonic, Sony Samsung and Hitachi.
Some of the cheap ones look rubbish !
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Persoanlly I've seen good and bad on both and nothing to challenge a very hgih end CRT set quite yet. The best screens I have seen have been Sagem, Panasonic, Sony Samsung and Hitachi.
Some of the cheap ones look rubbish !
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Originally Posted by AllanB
Plasma scrrens have a limited life normally around 3000 viewing hours although this has increased somewhat.
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Originally Posted by jpor
So getting back to the question I raised. Can anyone recommend a HD ready 20 - 23" LCD T.V?
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Originally Posted by AllanB
Plasma scrrens have a limited life normally around 3000 viewing hours although this has increased somewhat.
Persoanlly I've seen good and bad on both and nothing to challenge a very hgih end CRT set quite yet. The best screens I have seen have been Sagem, Panasonic, Sony Samsung and Hitachi.
Some of the cheap ones look rubbish !
AllanB
Persoanlly I've seen good and bad on both and nothing to challenge a very hgih end CRT set quite yet. The best screens I have seen have been Sagem, Panasonic, Sony Samsung and Hitachi.
Some of the cheap ones look rubbish !
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and lets face it who would keep a tv for that amount of time
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LCD are taking over from Plasma, I work at an electrical retailers and the manufacturers are cutting back every month production of Plasma in favour of LCD.
Plasma screens do look hell of a lot better for standard digital TV due to their low resolution. LCD's have a much higher resolution usually that is why most look quite poor on standard digital TV. With High Definition though an LCD looks 10x better than any Plasma.
Plasma screens do look hell of a lot better for standard digital TV due to their low resolution. LCD's have a much higher resolution usually that is why most look quite poor on standard digital TV. With High Definition though an LCD looks 10x better than any Plasma.
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did we miss a zero somwhere its more like 30000 hours, and then what happens is the colours may not be as bright,
and lets face it who would keep a tv for that amount of time
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and lets face it who would keep a tv for that amount of time
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How many CRTs as anyone seen where the red phosphor is worn out (leukemia vision)? Plenty of them about... the old Philips/Mullard (also used in many non-Philips TVs) tubes were notorious.
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Both current generation plasmas and LCD's are good for 60,000 hours.
The phosphours on the plasma will start "dimming" the closer you get to that figure and the backlight on the LCD will go around then.
There are now some very good LCD screens out there - the Sony Bravia range has already been mentioned - giving good blacks and fast panel response times around 8m/s.
For a residential application, I would personally go LCD as you avoid the dreaded burn in issues that can occur with plasma and you will not start seeing the pixel arrays as you may do after watching a plasma for a while particularly if sitting fairly close to the screen.
Additionally with plasma, some finer detail such as text can appear blurred due to the fixed pixel arrays.
Either way, it's all good technology whichever way you decide to go
The phosphours on the plasma will start "dimming" the closer you get to that figure and the backlight on the LCD will go around then.
There are now some very good LCD screens out there - the Sony Bravia range has already been mentioned - giving good blacks and fast panel response times around 8m/s.
For a residential application, I would personally go LCD as you avoid the dreaded burn in issues that can occur with plasma and you will not start seeing the pixel arrays as you may do after watching a plasma for a while particularly if sitting fairly close to the screen.
Additionally with plasma, some finer detail such as text can appear blurred due to the fixed pixel arrays.
Either way, it's all good technology whichever way you decide to go