Dead bird in park- should i report???
11 April 2006, 02:19 PM
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Dead bird in park- should i report???
Saw a dead seagull in the park today and with all the stuff thats going on with bird flu- i was thinking should i report it to someone? If so who?? I've walked the dog in this particular park for 4 years and have never come across a dead bird before. The park has a river that runs through it with swans and ducks etc.
RSPCA or the bird equivelant.
11 April 2006, 02:20 PM
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http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/dise...e/ai/index.htm
Not sure if their policy is to report a solitary dead bird though.
Just found this.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/dise....htm#reporting
Not sure if their policy is to report a solitary dead bird though.
Just found this.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/dise....htm#reporting
11 April 2006, 02:22 PM
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Birds, like people, tend to die.........
It's probably just not been picked up by a fox or other night animal that clears up dead rodents, birds and McDonalds.
It's probably just not been picked up by a fox or other night animal that clears up dead rodents, birds and McDonalds.
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11 April 2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
FP - I thought McDonalds cleared up the dead rodents and birds
Princessyin - did you check to see if there were a box of tissues and some empty hensip wrappers lying around?
Princessyin - did you check to see if there were a box of tissues and some empty hensip wrappers lying around?
11 April 2006, 02:34 PM
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Do I need to report single dead birds?
For Avian Influenza monitoring we are in most cases, looking for incidents of mortality affecting significant numbers of birds at the same time in the same place; however single or multiple deaths of swans are of interest. A wild bird die off is characterised by an unusual number of wild bird deaths in one area. The usual number of deaths depends on several things; for example, more deaths will be expected if the bird population is high, food is scarce or if the weather is bad. An unusually high number of deaths generally involves several birds of one species, or a larger number of birds from several species.
Am I at risk from touching dead birds?
Wild birds can carry several diseases that are infectious to people. If dead birds are handled, it is important to wash your hands with soap and water as soon as possible. Avoid touching your face and certainly do not eat until you have washed your hands. Clean any soiling on clothing with soap and water.
What am I at risk from?
Although the risk of AI may be low, birds carry other respiratory infections. Birds can also carry infections which can cause gastrointestinal infections such as Salmonella and Campylobacter.
What should I do if I or my children have touched a dead bird?
See question above.
Where could I dispose of dead birds and how?
Please contact the owner of the land on which the dead birds are located
For Avian Influenza monitoring we are in most cases, looking for incidents of mortality affecting significant numbers of birds at the same time in the same place; however single or multiple deaths of swans are of interest. A wild bird die off is characterised by an unusual number of wild bird deaths in one area. The usual number of deaths depends on several things; for example, more deaths will be expected if the bird population is high, food is scarce or if the weather is bad. An unusually high number of deaths generally involves several birds of one species, or a larger number of birds from several species.
Am I at risk from touching dead birds?
Wild birds can carry several diseases that are infectious to people. If dead birds are handled, it is important to wash your hands with soap and water as soon as possible. Avoid touching your face and certainly do not eat until you have washed your hands. Clean any soiling on clothing with soap and water.
What am I at risk from?
Although the risk of AI may be low, birds carry other respiratory infections. Birds can also carry infections which can cause gastrointestinal infections such as Salmonella and Campylobacter.
What should I do if I or my children have touched a dead bird?
See question above.
Where could I dispose of dead birds and how?
Please contact the owner of the land on which the dead birds are located
11 April 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by princessyin
Maybe i am just being paranoid....
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11 April 2006, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by princessyin
Saw a dead seagull in the park today and with all the stuff thats going on with bird flu- i was thinking should i report it to someone? If so who?? I've walked the dog in this particular park for 4 years and have never come across a dead bird before. The park has a river that runs through it with swans and ducks etc.
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11 April 2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Do I need to report single dead birds?
What am I at risk from?
Although the risk of AI may be low, birds carry other respiratory infections. Birds can also carry infections which can cause gastrointestinal infections such as Salmonella and Campylobacter.
What am I at risk from?
Although the risk of AI may be low, birds carry other respiratory infections. Birds can also carry infections which can cause gastrointestinal infections such as Salmonella and Campylobacter.
*fetches 12 bore shotgun*Come on people, it's them or us!!!
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11 April 2006, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hectic
is that not the 'done thing ' still..??
i know 'I' do it .....
i know 'I' do it .....
Regrettably there is now a cure for Bird Flu!
http://www.office-humour.co.uk/g/i/3875/
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11 April 2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
think youll fid that bird seed soaked in brake fluid keeps 'all manner' of unwanted *guests* from your back garden, tho'
11 April 2006, 03:10 PM
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It is looking likely that domestic cats probably represent more of a direct threat to humans than birds as the disease impacts upon them in a very similar way to humans and so they offer an ideal source of the mutations that would be necessary to make bird flu very dangerous to us. Domestic cats also have very close contact with humans whereas such contact between humans and wild birds is unusual. In Indonesia the locals have already got a name for the cat version of bird flu, they call it the amusing but pointed "Aargh-plop."
What is worrying is that cats seem to be able to contract the virus by eating infected chicken, in several cases all the big cats in zoos have been wiped out by eating infected chicken and in one of these cases in Thailand 147 tigers died! I've no idea why a zoo needs 147 tigers.
There isn't a lot of work in this area yet but some interesting, and worrying, references include:
Kuiken, Thijs, et al, Nature 440, pp 741 - 742 (2006)
van Riel, D, et al, Science, published online (2006)
Songserm, T, et al, Emerg Infect Dis, 12, pp 681 - 683 (2006)
What is worrying is that cats seem to be able to contract the virus by eating infected chicken, in several cases all the big cats in zoos have been wiped out by eating infected chicken and in one of these cases in Thailand 147 tigers died! I've no idea why a zoo needs 147 tigers.
There isn't a lot of work in this area yet but some interesting, and worrying, references include:
Kuiken, Thijs, et al, Nature 440, pp 741 - 742 (2006)
van Riel, D, et al, Science, published online (2006)
Songserm, T, et al, Emerg Infect Dis, 12, pp 681 - 683 (2006)
11 April 2006, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
It is looking likely that domestic cats probably represent more of a direct threat to humans than birds as the disease impacts upon them in a very similar way to humans and so they offer an ideal source of the mutations that would be necessary to make bird flu very dangerous to us. Domestic cats also have very close contact with humans whereas such contact between humans and wild birds is unusual. In Indonesia the locals have already got a name for the cat version of bird flu, they call it the amusing but pointed "Aargh-plop."
What is worrying is that cats seem to be able to contract the virus by eating infected chicken, in several cases all the big cats in zoos have been wiped out by eating infected chicken and in one of these cases in Thailand 147 tigers died! I've no idea why a zoo needs 147 tigers.
There isn't a lot of work in this area yet but some interesting, and worrying, references include:
Kuiken, Thijs, et al, Nature 440, pp 741 - 742 (2006)
van Riel, D, et al, Science, published online (2006)
Songserm, T, et al, Emerg Infect Dis, 12, pp 681 - 683 (2006)
What is worrying is that cats seem to be able to contract the virus by eating infected chicken, in several cases all the big cats in zoos have been wiped out by eating infected chicken and in one of these cases in Thailand 147 tigers died! I've no idea why a zoo needs 147 tigers.
There isn't a lot of work in this area yet but some interesting, and worrying, references include:
Kuiken, Thijs, et al, Nature 440, pp 741 - 742 (2006)
van Riel, D, et al, Science, published online (2006)
Songserm, T, et al, Emerg Infect Dis, 12, pp 681 - 683 (2006)
11 April 2006, 03:20 PM
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My god call Downing Street, MI5, the Army - this sounds SERIOUS!!! 
Infact call Bush as well, we need an airstrike on the area where you saw the dead bird ASAP otherwise bird flu will spread to millions!!!
Please tell me this thread is a joke?....
Infact call Bush as well, we need an airstrike on the area where you saw the dead bird ASAP otherwise bird flu will spread to millions!!!
Please tell me this thread is a joke?....
11 April 2006, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Infact call Bush as well, we need an airstrike on the area where you saw the dead bird ASAP otherwise bird flu will spread to millions!!!
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11 April 2006, 03:27 PM
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Misses cooked a poached egg the other day and she was unsure if it was cooked enough, I said eat it you'll be fine, you know what she said, I dont know, with all this bird flu going around I dont want to catch anything
11 April 2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
And yes, she is blonde before you ask
If her ***** are bigger than 32D you're still "busted" mate!!
Pun intended! ns04
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Originally Posted by davegtt
lol married, me? nope, she doesnt want to get married. Honestly. 8 year into the sentance too
11 April 2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Time for a cat cull perhaps
11 April 2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
FFS, don't call the US to hit the UK, they'll miss and wipe out France!!.................Actually, I haven't thought that through!!
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11 April 2006, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Time for a cat cull perhaps
I suspect that in the long term if bird flu actually becomes a real threat then we will see the government try to skirt around the cat issue just because of how unpopular such a suggestion would be. My guess is they will cull some rare duck or something, which will have no effect at all on the spread of bird flu into the human population, and ignore the science relating to cats in the name of popularity at the polls.
The actual virus needs to undergo several big mutations before it can make an effective jump into the general human population and because of how it works in cats it is seeming likely that cats will offer it the possibility of making the necessary mutations. Such mutations are unnecessary to infect birds and so it is unlikely that they will occur within the bird population.
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
If i owned a cat and, especially, had one that came into contact with kids then this is exactly what i would be engaging in myself.
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On the plus side, Chinese resturant owners would be sorted for meat supplies for decades!!!
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