David Lock

Us?

So I want to get a domain name, say www/davidlock.co.uk

Who has the "right" to sell this? Is it controlled (all seems to work well) and how much can they charge? Where is the best place to investigate what is available and where do I get the best value for money? Thanks, dl

Moonloops

bad luck mate -

Domain name:
davidlock.co.uk

Registrant:
David Lock Associates

Registrant type:
UK Limited Company, (Company number: 2422692)

Registrant's address:
50 North Thirteenth Street
Central Milton Keynes
Bucks
MK9 3BP

Registrant's agent:
Fibranet Services Ltd [Tag = FIBRANET]

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 24-Mar-2000
Renewal date: 24-Mar-2008
Last updated: 21-Feb-2006

Registration status:
Renewal request being processed.

Name servers:
ns1.ukdnsservers.co.uk
ns2.ukdnsservers.co.uk

WHOIS lookup made at 12:57:51 30-Mar-2006

David Lock

I was just using that as example. It's the background to it all that I am after.

Moonloops

aaahh OK

OllyK

look at somewhere like www.easyspace.com where you can try out different names. There are a number of different registration agencies, Nominet being one. Each looks after 1 or more extension i.e. .com or .co.uk etc. They do charge different prices depending on which you want, usually .com seems to be the more expensive and in theory at least to have a .ltd.uk the name must be registered with companies house as a ltd company.

sti-04!!

Osama Bin Laden has the key to the secret

NotoriousREV

In each country there is a domain registrar (In the UK it's Nominet www.nic.uk) who are responsible for domain names. Quite how the Yanks ended up in charge of .com, no one is quite sure. Basically, practically anyone can charge you whatever they like, but it has to be registered through the registrar in the end to be valid.

In the UK, companies that want to sell domain names can become members of Nominet and therefore can directly register domain names with them.

Don't think that registering direct is cheaper for the end-user, though, Nominet charge ridiculous amounts of money for non-members.

AudiLover

The US owns the internet.

Foot_Tapper

Well here is some info : http://www.isoc.org/internet/history....shtml#Origins

no one "owns" it do they, but I supposed if anyone could claim to it, the US Military would come closest.

lol ditto B2Z almost

David Lock

Thanks chaps - I'll have a look through the links.

http://www.names.co.uk/order/domains...sults.php?hid=

Above is what I have been using.

Always surprises me how well it seems to function without nutters or terrorists disabling the system with copy/clone names.

Didn't part of the Internet spring from JANET the old university information system or have I got my wires crossed? dl

Mark Miwurdz

Hi David

I think you've got your wires crossed. The invention of the internet has been largely credited to Tim Berners-Lee (a Brit) whilst he was working at CERN in Switzerland.

AFAIK, JANET was created as result of the internet and not the other way around. Might all be bollocks, of course

Cheers
Kav

Chris L

Technically Tim Berners-Lee came up with the principal of HTTP - not the Internet. The Internet has its roots in the 60's, originally coming from reseach at the MIT and then DARPA. The modern Internet really starts in the early 70s with Vint Cerf's work that lead to TCP/IP. Strictly speaking, no one actually owns the Internet, although it is fair to say that the US does have a huge amount of influence.

OllyK

TBL is now involved with W3C and is considered the father of the World Wide Web, but the internet has many more protocols than just http.

TopBanana

No, it only has two... IP and IPv6. Everything else runs on top of the Internet, but it isn't really an internet protocol.

TopBanana

Regarding domain ownership, the 'registrant' is the nearest thing to an owner of a domain. That's the person or organisation whose details you see doing a whois query. Each TLD (top level domain) like .com, .co.uk has its own registrar. You don't have to provide any evidence of a right to a domain name when you register one, but if it's a trademark or suchlike the rightful owner can legally turf out the squatter

rb5037

The best place to get a domain is at domainmonster.com

They are probably the cheapest and an easy site to get round.

http://www.domainmonster.com/

Brendan Hughes

I'd guess it's for the same reason as the UK doesn't have its country name on postage stamps - They Were First.

hectic

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RichB

Going back to your original question, Nominet own the rights to the 'co' sub domain of 'uk'.
Therefore you need to find a registration company who 'resell' names for Nominet of which there are practically thousands, my personal favourite at the moment is 123reg. Their domain control panel does everything I need.
123reg charge £6.09 for a .co.uk for 2 years.
You can only register .co.uk domains for a minimum of 2 years at a time.
Most others you can do for a year.
.co.uk domains are pretty much the cheapest and most will say get the .co.uk and the .com if you can. .biz and .org.uk and .me.uk are a bit 'unprofessional' if you like, fine for an individuals personal site...

Then you need to find someone to host the site, handle the email and in some case handle the DNS (domain name hosting)
Most will allow you control over where the website requests go, some will give you a POP3 mail box whereas others will only forward to another address.

Welcome to the minefield that is the internet!

NotoriousREV

No, they administer the whole .uk TLD (includes co, gov, nhs, me, edu etc.)

stevem2k

From a practical perspective it's owned by the 12 organisations that run the root nameservices .... ( verisign run two of them )

Without them there would be no dns (eventually)



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