New Labour at it again...
16 March 2006, 03:18 PM
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New Labour at it again...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4813156.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4812666.stm
It's almost daily now that some or other evidence of their corruption is exposed. They haven't just turned sleeze into an art form - it's more like an industry now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4812666.stm
It's almost daily now that some or other evidence of their corruption is exposed. They haven't just turned sleeze into an art form - it's more like an industry now.
16 March 2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Bat
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That's the problem (or the solution as far as New Labour are concerned) people are now so desensitized by the frequency of these kinds of revelations that they don't care anymore.
How sad (or dangerous for the rest of us) is that?
Never mind though... there's a fit french bird on the tellie...
16 March 2006, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Indeed.
That's the problem (or the solution as far as New Labour are concerned) people are now so desensitized by the frequency of these kinds of revelations that they don't care anymore.
How sad (or dangerous for the rest of us) is that?
Never mind though... there's a fit french bird on the tellie...
That's the problem (or the solution as far as New Labour are concerned) people are now so desensitized by the frequency of these kinds of revelations that they don't care anymore.
How sad (or dangerous for the rest of us) is that?
Never mind though... there's a fit french bird on the tellie...
17 March 2006, 09:37 AM
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Second Amigo here
I just LOVE the New Labour way of getting out of things:
Parliamentary Ombudsman is after them for producing leaflets that made people think their pensions were secure.
NL response: "There's no proof anyone acted differently after reading our leaflets"
( So anyone could use that defence in court if ever summoned for inciting religious or racial hatred, then? )
Now the Loans for Peerages sleaze.
NL response: "OK, we won't do it agian then!"
They are scum, pure and simple.
And before anyone thinks I'm a Tory, read my reply to the "Corby" thread, please
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I just LOVE the New Labour way of getting out of things:
Parliamentary Ombudsman is after them for producing leaflets that made people think their pensions were secure.
NL response: "There's no proof anyone acted differently after reading our leaflets"
( So anyone could use that defence in court if ever summoned for inciting religious or racial hatred, then? )
Now the Loans for Peerages sleaze.
NL response: "OK, we won't do it agian then!"
They are scum, pure and simple.
And before anyone thinks I'm a Tory, read my reply to the "Corby" thread, please
Alcazar
17 March 2006, 09:48 AM
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So the Prime Minister saves the taxpayer even more money by self-funding the Labour Party and what do you get,UncleBuck jumping on his soapbox.Your negativity towards what is one of the best Prime Ministers in the last 20 years is verging on OCD.
"Straightjacket for UncleBuck"
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"Straightjacket for UncleBuck"
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17 March 2006, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
one of the best Prime Ministers in the last 20 years is verging on OCD.
"Straightjacket for UncleBuck".....
"Straightjacket for UncleBuck"
.....With Margaret Thatcher from 1979 to 1990
...then John Major until 1997
...that would make Tony Blair the 3rd best....i.e the worst!
17 March 2006, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyl3cook
...then John Major until 1997
Rotten to the core,always was, always will be.
17 March 2006, 10:10 AM
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Business as usual, Tories still corrupt
Talking of corruption 
The new Conservative peers, nominated by departing leader Michael Howard, include Robert Edmiston, who gave the party £250,000 last year and the Tory party treasurer Jonathan Marland, who gives £50,000 a year to lead it's fundraising division.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=2212332005
The new Conservative peers, nominated by departing leader Michael Howard, include Robert Edmiston, who gave the party £250,000 last year and the Tory party treasurer Jonathan Marland, who gives £50,000 a year to lead it's fundraising division.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=2212332005
17 March 2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Talking of corruption
The new Conservative peers, nominated by departing leader Michael Howard, include Robert Edmiston, who gave the party £250,000 last year and the Tory party treasurer Jonathan Marland, who gives £50,000 a year to lead it's fundraising division.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=2212332005
The new Conservative peers, nominated by departing leader Michael Howard, include Robert Edmiston, who gave the party £250,000 last year and the Tory party treasurer Jonathan Marland, who gives £50,000 a year to lead it's fundraising division.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=2212332005
As I said this is sleeze on an industrial scale. Mafia style, and it traces right back to the Godfather himself.
17 March 2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
So the Prime Minister saves the taxpayer even more money by self-funding...
17 March 2006, 11:54 AM
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LOL. 300K of correctly declared donations is hardly in the same league as 14 Million
Tories : selling peerages for 50k a pop
Labour : selling peerages for 14 Million
Which one is the party for Business again?
17 March 2006, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
So let me get this right -
Tories : selling peerages for 50k a pop
Labour : selling peerages for 14 Million
Which one is the party for Business again?
Tories : selling peerages for 50k a pop
Labour : selling peerages for 14 Million
Which one is the party for Business again?
17 March 2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Or by the same token - which party gives you the best value for your money?
The Tories sold the countries assets on the cheap in the eighties,they cant even get a decent price for peerages.
Muppets.....always were,always will be.
17 March 2006, 03:33 PM
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include Robert Edmiston, who gave the party £250,000 last year
17 March 2006, 03:49 PM
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And of course you all know who Robert Edmiston is.......Owner of Subaru (UK)/IM Group, so when you buy your new Subaru you are funding the Tory Cash for Peers network.......
18 March 2006, 11:38 AM
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Paulr,
Do you honestly think it can be justifyable for a political party to use its postion of privilege to hand out peerages in exchange for so called loans which were only called that so that they did not have to be declared? They were obviously pretty sensitive about that then.Why?
Looks like all sense of honesty and correct behaviour has deserted political life. We seem to be in a state of "deniability" rather than worrying in any way now about the truth any more.
We are really well on the slippery slope now!
Les
Do you honestly think it can be justifyable for a political party to use its postion of privilege to hand out peerages in exchange for so called loans which were only called that so that they did not have to be declared? They were obviously pretty sensitive about that then.Why?
Looks like all sense of honesty and correct behaviour has deserted political life. We seem to be in a state of "deniability" rather than worrying in any way now about the truth any more.
We are really well on the slippery slope now!
Les
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