Will aid be provided for the UK??
13 March 2006, 01:03 PM
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Will aid be provided for the UK??
Just been anounced that we are officially having a drought 
will we now have a live aid, and loads of overseas popgroups raising money to help us??
could this be teflons masterplan to get him out of the financial poo??
why dosnt / hasnt the gov made the water companys have a national distribution system, like electricity & gas..
or does profit for the elite spring to mind
Mart
will we now have a live aid, and loads of overseas popgroups raising money to help us??
could this be teflons masterplan to get him out of the financial poo??
why dosnt / hasnt the gov made the water companys have a national distribution system, like electricity & gas..
or does profit for the elite spring to mind
Mart
13 March 2006, 01:09 PM
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The Tories privatised the water supply industry in 1989 with disastrous consequences for efficiency, investment in infrastructure and regional competition.
Profit for Tory supporters was their goal and it was pretty much achieved at the expense of the UK public
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Profit for Tory supporters was their goal and it was pretty much achieved at the expense of the UK public
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13 March 2006, 01:32 PM
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ok so it wasn't Mayor Ken who stopped the issue being resolved last year.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...676110,00.html
it must have been the torys fault for a decision made 18 years ago. Get with the programme
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...676110,00.html
Thames Water, which supplies eight million people in and around London, has faced a flood of criticism because its ancient, leaky, under-invested pipes lose almost one billion litres of water per day — enough to flush a modern loo some 200 million times. But Thames Water has at least taken the positive step of planning a £200 million desalination plant in Beckton, the first in Britain to turn seawater into drinking water.
The Government’s Environment Agency says this plant is urgently needed, and Newham Council agreed the project. Livingstone, however, vetoed it. Why on earth would the Mayor of London want to kibosh plans to tap into an almost limitless supply of water for the city? Apparently because the plant would use energy, and therefore contribute to global warming — the fashionable argument against doing anything today. And mostly because Livingstone prefers to make people use less water, and pay more for it through metering.
The Government’s Environment Agency says this plant is urgently needed, and Newham Council agreed the project. Livingstone, however, vetoed it. Why on earth would the Mayor of London want to kibosh plans to tap into an almost limitless supply of water for the city? Apparently because the plant would use energy, and therefore contribute to global warming — the fashionable argument against doing anything today. And mostly because Livingstone prefers to make people use less water, and pay more for it through metering.
13 March 2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
The Tories privatised the water supply industry in 1989 with disastrous consequences for efficiency, investment in infrastructure and regional competition.
Profit for Tory supporters was their goal and it was pretty much achieved at the expense of the UK public
EoT
Suresh
Profit for Tory supporters was their goal and it was pretty much achieved at the expense of the UK public
EoT
Suresh
13 March 2006, 01:37 PM
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it must have been the torys fault for a decision made 18 years ago.
13 March 2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
I'd almost be sympathetic IF NL had actually done anything in the last 9 years to change things.
as Olly says... 9 years and nothing has been done by the so called perfect government
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13 March 2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by suprabeast
as Olly says... 9 years and nothing has been done by the so called perfect government
. Could be better of course.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4747408.stm
The root cause of the problem was Tory scum selling off the family silver to their mates at rock bottom prices. I'm just trying to help us never forget that fact.
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13 March 2006, 02:13 PM
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Exactly. 1 million extra homes in the Thames Gateway area is going to put a huge extra demand on Thames Water. A desalination plant is not the way forward - better utilisation of existing resources is. That means that Thames Water needs to reduce leakage from their system even more. It also means that homes should collect rainwater for toilet flushing and garden use.
13 March 2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Not true. Over the last 10 years the water leakage problem has been reduced by 30% . Could be better of course.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4747408.stm
The root cause of the problem was Tory scum selling off the family silver to their mates at rock bottom prices. I'm just trying to help us never forget that fact.
Suresh
. Could be better of course.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4747408.stm
The root cause of the problem was Tory scum selling off the family silver to their mates at rock bottom prices. I'm just trying to help us never forget that fact.
Suresh
Millions of £££ of cash thrown towards covering up the issue rather than solving it
13 March 2006, 02:27 PM
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The way forward is not just to build homes in an area that has no employment prospects and also doesnt have the natural resources to support them.
As to better use great idea but it is all more cost which isnt actually cost effective.
When you factor in the cost of water meter installation, reading of them, replacement (every 25 years at least) they arent this great saver of the world that is made out.
As usual this governments answer to every problem is to make us pay more! That thames water is still allowing 30% of water to be lost in leaks is incrediable.
Stoping projects because it uses energy means we had better throw away all our computers and other Technology based products then! electricity consumption is rocketing because we use more and more eletrical products, this is a basic fact of life so may be a desalination plant will be a help but until they can supply sufficient water to cope with the situation we have today they shouldnt be building more homes.
As to better use great idea but it is all more cost which isnt actually cost effective.
When you factor in the cost of water meter installation, reading of them, replacement (every 25 years at least) they arent this great saver of the world that is made out.
As usual this governments answer to every problem is to make us pay more! That thames water is still allowing 30% of water to be lost in leaks is incrediable.
Stoping projects because it uses energy means we had better throw away all our computers and other Technology based products then! electricity consumption is rocketing because we use more and more eletrical products, this is a basic fact of life so may be a desalination plant will be a help but until they can supply sufficient water to cope with the situation we have today they shouldnt be building more homes.
13 March 2006, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Not true. Over the last 10 years the water leakage problem has been reduced by 30% . Could be better of course.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4747408.stm
The root cause of the problem was Tory scum selling off the family silver to their mates at rock bottom prices. I'm just trying to help us never forget that fact.
Suresh
. Could be better of course.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4747408.stm
The root cause of the problem was Tory scum selling off the family silver to their mates at rock bottom prices. I'm just trying to help us never forget that fact.
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13 March 2006, 03:09 PM
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You're at it again. The compaines are private, the reduction in water leaks have occured since they became private, so you can thank the Tories for that. NL haven't actually done anything.
Leaks reduced : Tories get credit.
Leaks not reduced : Labour gets blame.
13 March 2006, 03:09 PM
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Don't see what the problem is with TW having leaking water pipe!! surely the water leeks into the ground then ends up back in the reservoirs again, no water is actually lost anywhere is it. I doesn't jsut disappear! some may evaporate but then gets rained back down again somewhere. Ther eis only so much water on this planet and none of it vanishes into space so it is all technicall ystill on teh planet in some lake or summat.
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Originally Posted by Suresh
You really are quite funny.
Leaks reduced : Tories get credit.
Leaks not reduced : Labour gets blame.
Leaks reduced : Tories get credit.
Leaks not reduced : Labour gets blame.
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Don't see what the problem is with TW having leaking water pipe!! surely the water leeks into the ground then ends up back in the reservoirs again, no water is actually lost anywhere is it. I doesn't jsut disappear! some may evaporate but then gets rained back down again somewhere. Ther eis only so much water on this planet and none of it vanishes into space so it is all technicall ystill on teh planet in some lake or summat.
13 March 2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Don't see what the problem is with TW having leaking water pipe!! surely the water leeks into the ground then ends up back in the reservoirs again, no water is actually lost anywhere is it.
Oh, as for the 'energy' needed to run a desalination plant contributing to GW, if the money needed to implement Kyoto was used elsewhere it could provide adequate fresh water for EVEYONE on the planet ... over to you Red Ken ....
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13 March 2006, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by suprabeast
ok so it wasn't Mayor Ken who stopped the issue being resolved last year.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...676110,00.html
it must have been the torys fault for a decision made 18 years ago. Get with the programme
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...676110,00.html
it must have been the torys fault for a decision made 18 years ago. Get with the programme
13 March 2006, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
The Tories privatised the water supply industry in 1989 with disastrous consequences for efficiency, investment in infrastructure and regional competition.
Profit for Tory supporters was their goal and it was pretty much achieved at the expense of the UK public
EoT
Suresh
Profit for Tory supporters was their goal and it was pretty much achieved at the expense of the UK public
EoT
Suresh
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13 March 2006, 05:07 PM
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They could still do a lot better, though.
Recent figures put the loss at 8 BILLION gallons a year, between them
here in the fairly rainy North Midlands, I've reported FOUR leaks this last 12 months. Three took over 4 months each before being fixed, the fourth is still running
Anglian water!
And because I live in an area that pays Anglian for it's (nasty, chlorinated), drinking water, and Severn-Trent to deal with it's waste water, we pay over the odds for the two!
Certainly more than mates who pay entirely to one, or the other
Alcazar
Recent figures put the loss at 8 BILLION gallons a year, between them
here in the fairly rainy North Midlands, I've reported FOUR leaks this last 12 months. Three took over 4 months each before being fixed, the fourth is still running
Anglian water!
And because I live in an area that pays Anglian for it's (nasty, chlorinated), drinking water, and Severn-Trent to deal with it's waste water, we pay over the odds for the two!
Certainly more than mates who pay entirely to one, or the other
Alcazar
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