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My neighbour has been dragged from her new Range Rover Sport this morning (0805hrs) during vehicle theft - and was very nearly run over in the process.

She is very shaken up but otherwise ok (thank goodness).

Could some explain how anti hi jacking systems work?

Are they worth it?

Serious question.

Leslie

No idea how they work I'm afraid.

Horrible experience for your neighbour of course, these crimes are getting too common these days, the crims are just laughing at the law and the police I think.

Les

davegtt

Blackjax I think is the main one everyone likes, I think it doesnt stop your car being hijacked but it'll only let them get 100yds down the road before the engine cuts out and all the electrics etc so she would have gone through the same ordeal but got her car back in one piece....

Iwan

Blackjax basically arms if any of the doors are opened while the engine is running. Then when you pull away the anti-hijack sequence is activated once the revs rise to a certain preset level, once this happens you have 20 seconds to enter a PIN on a keypad before the system starts flashing the lights, sounding the siren, and immobilising the car.

BlkKnight

Only problem with blackjax is that you have a couple of angry people chasing you on foot to get the code from you. . . .

Petem95

Exactly, I think in a lot of cases if youre going to get carjacked, you just give them the car and let them bugger off, leaving you to contact Police and insurance.

Doing anything else is increasing the chances of you being hurt.

BlkKnight

At the end of the day it's only money & metal (as my dad always says). Why risk further injury?

Brendan Hughes

Unless she's licensed to carry a gun and use it in a public place, I'd suggest a deep breath and the reasoning "That's why I pay a fortune for car insurance".

AndyC_772

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There are other anti-hijack systems around too. You can get ones which require the driver to be carrying a radio transponder; once this device is out of range, the car will drive for about 1/2 a mile and then the engine cuts out. The idea is basically the same as with Blackjax, but you have the radio device in your wallet rather than having a code to enter.

The basic idea is still the same, though. Let the crooks have the car, phone the police, phone your tracker company, retrieve the car from just up the road - hopefully undamaged.

Dracoro

Why didn't she have the doors locked? Unless the theives smash the window, I fail to see how they could 'hijack' the car. Regardless, horrible crime and problem is that the authorities treat this as 'car crime' rather than assault/robbery etc. This won't stop, regardless of car security. We need to remove the thieves off the streets, have more police on the street to prevent it happening and have proper sentencing and more jails for the scum.

tmo

Need a trunk Monkey

www.trunkmonkey.com

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MORE DETAILS - she had opened the car with the key fob and was in the driver's seat and was pulling the door closed when the incident occured.

The car would have pulled onto a busy A road with commuter traffic - but the thieves had a Land Rover Discovery with them so this could have been used as a "weapon".

Best after all to let thieves take what they want - one's life is too precious to lose it to the likes of these animals.

The Chief

http://www.i-techsecurity.co.uk/index.html


A few of the Smacs lads are thinking of getting this - me included

legb4rsk

I don't think that carrying a radio transponder on your person is a very good idea.The 'scum' will soon cotton on to this & either take you with them , make you give it up or forcefully remove it from your person.This is putting you in danger & not your car.What a dumb idea.

I like the Backjax idea.Can you program it to take longer to activate,say 10 mins ? This will give you longer to get away & contact the police etc.They wont get that far away in 10 mins.

Fuzz

where would a woman put the transponder... Yup her handbag... and where would that get left when you got dragged out of the car.


Andy

New_scooby_04

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Blackjax gives them about half a mile IIRC, that's enough, they'll then be stranded in a car with blazing lights and a siren, stuck in the middle of the road, if they were to be stupid enough to try and locate you to get the code rather than take to their heels......well, I can't see it! Besides as soon as they get the car, you should run to the nearest public place and phone the police, not attempt self-recover as is often suggested.

NS04

Abdabz

Blackjaxx is great... Mine was demonstrated to me once installed - the siren makes your ears bleed if fitted behind the dash, the lights start flashing, the car cuts out (once revs are deemed low enough) and the scum get about 1/2 mile away...
If you've spent time and money on your car, you know that the insurance company will not give two hoots when sending you a cheque for claim on your dissapeared vehicle. With Blackjaxx I know Im getting my pride and joy back, within ~30mins... Although you could argue it would have been damaged by the scum in the 90 seconds they got to drive it...
Sorry to hear about your mates experience - not good...

SJ_Skyline

IIRC Richard Askew attempted self-recovery and knocked 7 shades out of the one he caught. Scumbag tried to get him in court with an assault charge

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Is it not about time the "legal system" was changed - in FAVOUR of the victim?

Bit if a can of worms this........

corradoboy

There is the obvious weekness in the Blackjax system, should the thieves be aware of its installation and resort to violent measures to get the code. A solution to this would be to possibly have 2 codes. Your everyday code just as it has now, and a second code that seems to work fine, but some time later fails to operate. A simple addition to Blackjax Mk.2, and I shall settle for a free upgrade for the idea

Sorry about your friends troubles.

pslewis

Don't buy a nice new car if you are a woman or if you are an IT Geeky type - as you will have it taken off you.

It's sad but true.

A 20 stone heavy sitting in a nice new motor is likely able to keep hold of it - simply due to the cowards wondering which one of them will be laid in hospital, when the others finally ****** the vehicle!

It's now a jungle out there ....................

Pete

AudiLover

lol well if your cars woth over 20k youd better sell up being a feeble 77 year old.

Brendan Hughes

No, it's because they don't want to get a slipped disc trying to get the driver's body out after they've shot him.

pslewis

They're all fake guns anyway .... just pop your finger in the end and tell them to go foook themselves!!

Pete

apples24

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blackjax is superb i had it on my esc cossie, not only does it cut the engine sound horn alarm sirent flash all lights etc but it totally cuts off the alarm keyfobs etc too so there is nothing they can do atall apart from get out and run

if my wife had a tasty motor i would deffo make sure she had blackjax, bu she has a beat up diesel ford galaxy pmsl

the only thing with clifford alarms is reliability, get a good recomended installer to fit it as poor fitment is the main casue of problems

imlach

Your idea has one slight flaw though....if professional theives know about Blackjax and the "first code", then they'll know about the Mk2 which requires 2 codes as well....doh

apples24

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to be honest you cant tell the car has blackjax to look at, the code is entered into the standard valet code 2 button switch, normaly placed in a discreet part of the dashboard

Scoob99

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The one I have fitted locks the doors 10secs after the engine is started, and IF someone trys to open it you hit the green button on the pad and the alarm goes off and the headlights flash too.
Cheers
Colin

Leslie

Its about time the PC dictators were kicked into touch and the innocent were allowed free licence to protect themselves against murderous criminals.

Can't expepct much else from this bunch in charge though-they just don't care anyway!

Les

Fuzz

And you so much as fart next to one and it goes off..

If you ever hear a car alarm going of, by sure it'll be a clifford.

Andy