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Dog Food???
My 18 month old labrador eats through approximately £40 worth (20kg) of James Welbelove dry food a month. Is it really worth paying the extra for a so called 'premium' food like James Wellbelove or will he be just as well off eating Beta or the like at half the cost?
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My mutt is alergyic to lots of dog food, tried him on all sorts, all the expensive stuff like James W and Eukanuba etc bring him out in Xezma (spelling? exzma?) Hes on Beta at the minute, eats it every day and makes his rear entry pretty solid. Cant argue with it really. All depends on what your dog takes to really IMO.
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Originally Posted by Sonic_Danny
My 18 month old labrador eats through approximately £40 worth (20kg) of James Welbelove dry food a month. Is it really worth paying the extra for a so called 'premium' food like James Wellbelove or will he be just as well off eating Beta or the like at half the cost?
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It's probably horses for courses, but my previous dogs (2 golden retrievers, 2 brown labradors) and my current dog (Staffordshire Bull Terrier) have always done better on quality food (better coat condition and general energy levels). The way I look at it is I wouldn't choose to eat supermarket 'value' foods, I wouldn't run my scooby on supermarket 'value' fuels and oils, so I wouldn't run my dog on what I percieved as 'lower quality' foods.
Just my opinion FWIW - hope it's useful.
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Just my opinion FWIW - hope it's useful.
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Our Staffy changed from a diet of normal tinned dog food to Hills Canine r/d about a year ago in order to lose weight. Not only has she lost all her excess weight but her coat is in much better condition and she looks much better generally. Everyone who sees her comments on how well she looks now so even though she's finished with the diet food we've put her on Hills Canine w/d. It costs around £50 for a 14kg bag but is worth every penny just to see her looking so good
The only thing is she poos for England now due to all the increased fibre in her diet but at least they're nice and solid now
The only thing is she poos for England now due to all the increased fibre in her diet but at least they're nice and solid now
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My dogs have got beautiful coats as well and neither are overweight.
It's just a case of feeding the dogs what they like and after trying them on several brands they seem to prefer this one.
It's just a case of feeding the dogs what they like and after trying them on several brands they seem to prefer this one.
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our collie has always been worse off on 'cheaper' foods. i used to walk around pet shop and laugh at the expensive varieties, especially the Burns, 'holistic', nonGM, no additives etc me saying "what a load of cr*p people will by for their animals!!"
and after trying him on loads of cheaper stuff and him having poor coat and skin and having frequent looseness at the back etc etc
guess what we now use!! the Burns!!
its cheaper than the vet type stuff, ie hills etc. which the vet was saying we needed to use!
Id swear by it, not only a better coat and skin etc (not that im hung up on that he aint no show dog!!) but he does about 40% less sh*t. i kid you not! i guess its a case of less cr*p in, less cr*p out!!
and after trying him on loads of cheaper stuff and him having poor coat and skin and having frequent looseness at the back etc etc
guess what we now use!! the Burns!!
its cheaper than the vet type stuff, ie hills etc. which the vet was saying we needed to use!
Id swear by it, not only a better coat and skin etc (not that im hung up on that he aint no show dog!!) but he does about 40% less sh*t. i kid you not! i guess its a case of less cr*p in, less cr*p out!!
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Stick with the expensive stuff, after all, what's 40 pounds per month for the love, health and loyalty of your dog? Save a tenner, make it unhappy, I don't think so
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As said above, but 20 kilos a month sounds quite a lot to me, i'd stick with the expensive stuff but cut down on the amount a little, unless its a very large or very active dog it sounds as though you could be overfeeding it a little. Labradors can be prone to gaining weight quite quickly weight if overfed, although you may think it kind to the dog, to feed it lots, you'll only harm the dog in the long run, if in doubt have a word with a friendly vet.
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Ours is a Golden Retriever and he goes through 20kg of dry food per month, mind you, we have a large garden and when he isn't tearing around in that, he's being walked through the woods (2 - 3 hours per day)
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I've gone the other way and it's not worth it. From Eukanuba to some VAT free stuff which has resulted in an even more badly behaved dog who craps for England!
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We have used James Welbelove, Eukanuba, Burns and just plain old chicken and boiled rice.
We did at one point change to a food that was well spec'd and didn't affect the dog we have with sensitive skin and being a damn site cheaper and availible at Costco we stuck with it for a while.
All was well for a start but over a couple of months we did see the condition of the dogs deteriorate. 2 weeks back on Burns and the change was amazing.
Looking at it from a practical aspect too the wife informs me that the **** is easier picked up as the waste is more solid ....nice.
A mate at work races huskies and the food makes a HUGE difference to his times.
All in all, if you can afford to keep your dog on the dearer stuff then do so.
Eukanuba has a breeders club that you can join and recieve decent money off when you buy multiple bags.
We did at one point change to a food that was well spec'd and didn't affect the dog we have with sensitive skin and being a damn site cheaper and availible at Costco we stuck with it for a while.
All was well for a start but over a couple of months we did see the condition of the dogs deteriorate. 2 weeks back on Burns and the change was amazing.
Looking at it from a practical aspect too the wife informs me that the **** is easier picked up as the waste is more solid ....nice.
A mate at work races huskies and the food makes a HUGE difference to his times.
All in all, if you can afford to keep your dog on the dearer stuff then do so.
Eukanuba has a breeders club that you can join and recieve decent money off when you buy multiple bags.
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Originally Posted by gingerboy
Bakers complete - my two boxers love it and neither are over weight.
I would rather my dogs ate eachother than ate that stuff !
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He is not be overfed, i only give him the recommended amount and he looks in damn fine shape.
After reading above comments i think im best sticking with the Wellbelove stuff.
After reading above comments i think im best sticking with the Wellbelove stuff.
Originally Posted by shaunywrx
As said above, but 20 kilos a month sounds quite a lot to me, i'd stick with the expensive stuff but cut down on the amount a little, unless its a very large or very active dog it sounds as though you could be overfeeding it a little. Labradors can be prone to gaining weight quite quickly weight if overfed, although you may think it kind to the dog, to feed it lots, you'll only harm the dog in the long run, if in doubt have a word with a friendly vet.
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Originally Posted by Sonic_Danny
He is not be overfed, i only give him the recommended amount and he looks in damn fine shape.
After reading above comments i think im best sticking with the Wellbelove stuff.
After reading above comments i think im best sticking with the Wellbelove stuff.
Wellbeloved is excellent food btw.
It's really a case of finding out the food that suits your dog best. After the growing has stopped its less important to use "premium" foods and more important to get one they are good on.
Also look to cut down on the protein content as they get older.
Out bitch can eat anything. Our dog is sensitive to certain foods (stomach, skin senstitivity)
Having been through James Wellbeloved, Burns and Eukanaba, we've finally found a combination he's good on which involves a mix of Science Plan Natures Best (premium) Tinned Chappie (cheap) and cod liver oil capsules.
Fussy bugger that he is...
BTW - he is around 7 stone, gets plenty of exercise and gets appx one half to two thirds the recommended daily intake on aggregate of the various the food types.
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Originally Posted by PG
Does the red poo not worry you somewhat?
I would rather my dogs ate eachother than ate that stuff !
I would rather my dogs ate eachother than ate that stuff !
Neither suffer any skin conditions at all, the only problem we have is one is a complete physco - but I doubt thats anything to do with bakers.
Isn't it a bit peverse watching your dogs eat each other, must be 2 bitches I presume .
GB
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We tried Jess our Boxer on dried food but the numpty just thinks it's a bowl of treats and just takes a bit at a time lays on her bed and thinks how lucky she is that she gets so many treats .
So shes permantly on the tin'd food, two in the morning and 1 and some mixer in the evenings, and still she puts no wait on, enought to make most women jealous
Oh and some of the comments above , red pooh, 1/2 a pooh...
Jess doesn't hold back, she does whole ones, plus the lady-like burps
So shes permantly on the tin'd food, two in the morning and 1 and some mixer in the evenings, and still she puts no wait on, enought to make most women jealous
Oh and some of the comments above , red pooh, 1/2 a pooh...
Jess doesn't hold back, she does whole ones, plus the lady-like burps
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I sell about 5 tons of dog food a month,and one ton of that is Burns,speaks for it's self.15Kg of Burns should last a Labrador about 7 weeks if fed at the correct amounts,if he is working or doing alot of exercise feed Burns Active,(which is VAT free)but still only 24% protein.
I have 4 Labs,a Springer and a Hungarian Kuvas,I have tried the full range of foods over the past 11 years that I have been doing it and Burns is definately the best on the market.
http://www.burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk
Free nutritional help line,samples and stockists.
I have 4 Labs,a Springer and a Hungarian Kuvas,I have tried the full range of foods over the past 11 years that I have been doing it and Burns is definately the best on the market.
http://www.burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk
Free nutritional help line,samples and stockists.
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How much for 15kg of Burns?
Originally Posted by Merv
I sell about 5 tons of dog food a month,and one ton of that is Burns,speaks for it's self.15Kg of Burns should last a Labrador about 7 weeks if fed at the correct amounts,if he is working or doing alot of exercise feed Burns Active,(which is VAT free)but still only 24% protein.
I have 4 Labs,a Springer and a Hungarian Kuvas,I have tried the full range of foods over the past 11 years that I have been doing it and Burns is definately the best on the market.
http://www.burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk
Free nutritional help line,samples and stockists.
I have 4 Labs,a Springer and a Hungarian Kuvas,I have tried the full range of foods over the past 11 years that I have been doing it and Burns is definately the best on the market.
http://www.burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk
Free nutritional help line,samples and stockists.
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
I use Science Plan - Natures Best. Apparently 100% natural product.
Highly recommended.
Buck
Highly recommended.
Buck
Good temperament too.
Another dog we had would be a psycho on lesser foods - food has a big impact on what are regarded as poor doggy behaviours.
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I have a male 6 year old Japanese Akita. I feed him on chicken + rice, dry food and his tummy is perfect. I find canned food, is a bit rich and makes his buiness a little runny.
Mind you, he also has chicken / fish diners, regular steaks, and the odd chinese (he loves sweet + sour chicken Hong Kong style, and boiled rice ).
Occasionally he may eat his own food, but only when hungry :-)
Add to that, he has endless raw hide bones, cuddly toys that make nosies e.g. brought him a quaking duck.
On average, I spend over a good £150 a month on my beast, not including insurance, strong hold, endless remote controls he eats.
For that £150, I get a lovely, happy, fit, loving dog, that I love more than any girlfriend, ( he's bitten two :-), and when asked "Me or the dog", they were shown the door ). I would gladly spend £500 a month on my boy.
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Mind you, he also has chicken / fish diners, regular steaks, and the odd chinese (he loves sweet + sour chicken Hong Kong style, and boiled rice ).
Occasionally he may eat his own food, but only when hungry :-)
Add to that, he has endless raw hide bones, cuddly toys that make nosies e.g. brought him a quaking duck.
On average, I spend over a good £150 a month on my beast, not including insurance, strong hold, endless remote controls he eats.
For that £150, I get a lovely, happy, fit, loving dog, that I love more than any girlfriend, ( he's bitten two :-), and when asked "Me or the dog", they were shown the door ). I would gladly spend £500 a month on my boy.
SBK