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Old 14 December 2005, 05:39 PM
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Friends of the Earth are running a poll and you can have your say on a reduction in fuel tax (or increased investment in public transport)

So far the two are running pretty close but you might care to vote as I am sure the green nutters are a bit put out that even visitors to their site are not totally opposed to decreases in fuel tax:

http://www.foe.co.uk/Templates/have_your_say.jsp

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Old 14 December 2005, 05:49 PM
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In true Friends of the Earth fashion their technology fails to function. Maybe the hamster they use to generate the power for their server ran out of sunflower seeds?
Old 14 December 2005, 05:53 PM
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Oh sorry, try using this link instead:

http://www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/transport/

It may be that I directed you to the page you get after you vote.
Old 14 December 2005, 05:57 PM
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Fuel Tax cuts are in the lead. I bet that wasn't in the script!!
Old 14 December 2005, 06:18 PM
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I can just imagine the reaction of lentil munchers who arrive to cast their vote only to find that common sense exists even within the hallowed portals of the environmental movement.

It really isn't going well for the greens on many fronts :-)
Old 14 December 2005, 06:40 PM
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One more vote here for cuts in fuel tax....
Old 14 December 2005, 09:11 PM
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If you delete the cookie called www.foe.co.uk you can vote again

Just did it 30 times will do some more tomorrow
Old 15 December 2005, 12:42 AM
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Chances are they'll log the IP addresses where the votes came from and use this as an excuse to adjust the final figures.
Old 15 December 2005, 01:03 AM
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That said, go here to vote without having to delete cookies every time

http://www.lum.co.uk/temp/vote.html

I would have edited my last post, but the edit button is not working.
Old 15 December 2005, 01:38 PM
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Haha, keep voting just to undermine them

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Old 15 December 2005, 02:02 PM
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Nice one Lum - Except you have the wrong option you pillock! <INPUT TYPE="RADIO" NAME="vote" VALUE="/campaigns/transport/templates/have_your_say/invest_public_transport.txt">

I've just noticed that they have a forum on their website...

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Old 15 December 2005, 02:20 PM
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I've noticed a lot of paranoid looking lentil eaters cycling around the streets this morning. I think they are starting to realise the real meaning of evolution and to see that they've been out-evolved by a highly intelligent species who drive fast cars. It isn't going to be a metorite that drives this mass extinction of dinosaurs: this lot a are going to be wiped out by a push bike, a few lentils, some sandals and a head full of sweetie mice. :-)
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Originally Posted by Lum
That said, go here to vote without having to delete cookies every time

http://www.lum.co.uk/temp/vote.html

I would have edited my last post, but the edit button is not working.
Yes, be careful as Lums button actually registers a vote for public transport!!!! I am sure this was an error on Lums part, or maybe they have made a change to the site since he created his button. However, in the mean time don't use Lums button, just vote as normal :-)
Old 15 December 2005, 03:14 PM
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Whoops, didn't notice that. Fixed now thanks. Cut & paste error Edit: I suppose next is some JavaScript to repeatedly mash the submit button for you

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Originally Posted by Lum
Whoops, didn't notice that. Fixed now thanks. Cut & paste error Edit: I suppose next is some JavaScript to repeatedly mash the submit button for you
for (i = 0; i < 10; i++)
{
window.document.forms.formname.submit();
}


Doesn't work very well, the page doesn't have time to load so you only get a couple of submits
Old 15 December 2005, 05:22 PM
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Just had another look. Nearly 10,000 votes now -

Fuel tax cuts
61.83 %

Public transport investment
38.17 %

Great result.
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Originally Posted by Lum
That said, go here to vote without having to delete cookies every time

http://www.lum.co.uk/temp/vote.html

I would have edited my last post, but the edit button is not working.
just voted 500 times seems to have stopped working now though
Old 15 December 2005, 05:56 PM
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Yes, i notice that the page has mysteriously vanished from the FoE site. I wonder why that is then?

Perhaps they are making some "corrections" to the voting patterns? It would be a bit of a shame if the media discovered that FoE "correct" polls on their site to give the "right" answer :-)
Old 15 December 2005, 05:58 PM
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Nope, it has come back again so get voting. As they used to say in Belfast:

Vote early, vote often.
Old 15 December 2005, 06:16 PM
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900 and counting
Old 15 December 2005, 06:51 PM
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Note that on the FoE site you can also send a prepared email to Jacques Barrot calling for tough emissions restrictions on cars. Of course you can edit the text of this email and so the more informed web user may wish to call for other things, like one of these Bugatti things for Christmas :-)

http://www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/trans...ars/index.html

I have just sent the following, but I am sure you can all do better than this:

Climate change is totally unsupported by science and is merely a political tool used by the various so called "environmental" organisations to gain some control over ordinary citizens. It is, to be frank, a lie. Private transport must play its full part in improving the quality of life for the citizens of Europe and with this in mind I would encourage you to remove any and all restrictions upon the current and future development of private transport. Congestion charging, road pricing and allied concepts and technology should be made illegal and all EU governments should be encouraged to rapidly expand their road network for the benefit of all. I am in no way concerned that car
manufacturers look set to miss the 2008 voluntary target agreed with the EU
to cut emissions from new cars and would like to encourage the production of larger and faster vehicles for the benefit of the economy and the right to freedom of choice. I know that you are currently considering
what should happen after 2008, and strongly urge you to agree upon policies that would make the attempts at thought control practised by the various so called "environmental" organisations illegal. I for one have no wish to live in the Stalinist state they aspire to.
Old 16 December 2005, 09:24 AM
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Thanks Lum - Up to a 70/30% vote split now
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Old 16 December 2005, 09:29 AM
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I put in at least 500 votes........hehehehehehe

Anybody posted this on a few other 'interested forums' like pistonheads, mitsi & briskoda for example?
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another 4oo votes cast
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Bet they are feeling a bit stupid now!

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Old 16 December 2005, 12:51 PM
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Over 13,000 votes cast, and cuts in fuel tax are at nearly 75% of the vote. LOL

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Old 16 December 2005, 01:38 PM
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This is one poll that we will not be seeing the results of in the Guardian along with some hand wringing article blaming it all on Jeremy Clarkson and telling us that if we don't stop then we will die. However, for every poll that they get a truthful answer to there are others they use to continue to promote their lies and oppression.

Oh, and you can write direct to M. Barrot, the chap they want to introduce nasty restrictions on cars, at this address:

cab-archive-barrot@cec.eu.int

If you write via the FoE page then your email goes to a FoE censor who, for some reason, seems reluctant to forward it to M. Barrot. They like open debate in the environmental movement, as long as it only presents their side of the argument.
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