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Old 26 November 2005, 05:58 PM
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Question CRT still better than Plasma or LCD?

Has the game moved on or is CRT still king??

Would a Panasonic 36" CRT 100Hz at £700 make more sense than a 42" SONY Plasma at £1500 or a Sony 37" LCD at £1700??

Should an investment be made in a HD Ready 42" Plasma - at a price of about £2000??

It's difficult to know when to jump in!!

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Old 26 November 2005, 06:04 PM
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CRT is still king but LCD is not far behind followed by plasma IMHO.

I think you'll find that the Panasonic CRT is HD compliant. I bought a 32" PD50C a year ago and thats HD compatible, but check the specs just to make sure.
Old 26 November 2005, 06:06 PM
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Depends, CRT is a huge ugly bulky thing that sits there and does a job, a good plamsa for me does the job just as well and sit ont he wall making the front room look MUCH bigger
Old 26 November 2005, 06:11 PM
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The CRT is a Panasonic TX36PL32

Not sure if thats HD compliant?? Would say not?

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Old 26 November 2005, 06:14 PM
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I just sent my LCD back - not good enough for SD use and won't be having HDTV for a long time.

CRT is still much better.

However, I need a new TV so will be getting a Sharp P50's series TV - designed for PAL broadcasts and HD Compatible.
Old 26 November 2005, 06:15 PM
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HDTV is quite a way off here (UK) so investing in a compliant TV at this stage would be too early. If your after an austhetically pleasing TV go for an LCD/Plasma if your after picture quality I would still recommend a CRT.
Old 26 November 2005, 06:21 PM
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for pc use i wont if at all pssible move from crt,

likewise home tv, i,d rather go down the projection route.

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Old 26 November 2005, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jowl
I just sent my LCD back - not good enough for SD use and won't be having HDTV for a long time.

CRT is still much better.

However, I need a new TV so will be getting a Sharp P50's series TV - designed for PAL broadcasts and HD Compatible.
The Sharp P50's are LCDs though??

Pete
Old 26 November 2005, 06:49 PM
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HDTV is not that far off. Sky broadcasts starting in the new year if you take the plunge.
Also the XBOX360 is being released next Friday and for that a HDTV is essential.
Old 26 November 2005, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
for pc use i wont if at all pssible move from crt
How come? A GOOD tft is miles better than a crt. Much better on the eyes, a better looking picture generally and a hella load of space saved!
Old 26 November 2005, 07:16 PM
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From a PC point of view yes. From a TV/Movie/Home Cinema point of view, no.
Old 26 November 2005, 07:23 PM
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Pete, have a look @ the Tosh 37WLT58 LCD - i just got one on price match from John Lewis, and it's an excellent set. I went from a 28" CRT Sony.
Old 26 November 2005, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by oobster
Pete, have a look @ the Tosh 37WLT58 LCD - i just got one on price match from John Lewis, and it's an excellent set. I went from a 28" CRT Sony.
Cheers ................ price matched at £1552??

http://www.digitaldirectuk.com/produ...sa=PRICERUNNER

Not bad ..... but 800:1 Contrast Ratio? Isn't that poor?

I've been ummmming and errrring for ages now - but its Xmas, the shops are begging for my trade and I fancy a treat!!

Pete

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Old 26 November 2005, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

Not bad ..... but 800:1 Contrast Ratio? Isn't that poor?
No, LCDs are measured differently from Plasma which are generally much higher.

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Old 26 November 2005, 08:14 PM
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It's a bloody minefield!!

And why I give up each time I force my wallet out of it's steel box!!

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Old 26 November 2005, 08:33 PM
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Nearly Pete - got it for £1573. And that included the 5-year warranty from JL.

Went for the Tosh because everyone raved about it over on avforums.co.uk - plus the connectivity was top notch
Old 26 November 2005, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Has the game moved on or is CRT still king??

It's difficult to know when to jump in!!

Pete
Still sitting on the fence eh Pete.Personally unless you need the space i'd still go with CRT.However,with HDTV i'd wait.
Old 26 November 2005, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
However,with HDTV i'd wait.
Yes, I know!!

But I'm going to be dead soon!!

Pete
Old 26 November 2005, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Yes, I know!!

But I'm going to be dead soon!!

Pete
Then stick with CRT.
If you take away the "glamour" of LCD and Plasma all you are paying for is about 12 inches of space behind the picture.I still dont think CRT has been beaten picture wise,which in the end is why you buy a telly.
Old 26 November 2005, 09:34 PM
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Cheers paulr ..................... the thing is this, 'The 42" Plasma is quite a lot bigger than a 36" CRT' and as any TRUTHFUL woman will tell you "Size Does Matter, Especially Diagonally!!"

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Old 26 November 2005, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SiDHEaD
How come? A GOOD tft is miles better than a crt. Much better on the eyes, a better looking picture generally and a hella load of space saved!
and artifacts to hell on fast moving objects,

sorry i like sharp resolution, not soft edges to all

Mart
Old 26 November 2005, 11:52 PM
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odd, doesnt happen on my 12ms one. Sharper than my Iiyama crt ever was! Maybe i don't look at the same things as u - i just surf the net, watch movies or play Half Life 2. Certainly never experience what you said on mine.
Old 27 November 2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by oobster
Nearly Pete - got it for £1573. And that included the 5-year warranty from JL.

Went for the Tosh because everyone raved about it over on avforums.co.uk - plus the connectivity was top notch
oobster

Can I ask how you persuaded John Lewis to price match??

I went into John Lewis in the Trafford Centre, Manchester and they had this set for £1995, I seen it online for £1573 but they said they would only price match a store price.

Good thing about this set is it has 2 HDMI slots and a VGA doesn't it??

If I can get John Lewis to match at £1573 then I'll have it

Old 27 November 2005, 05:00 PM
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Nothing rivals CRT for black level and dark detail, other technologies have caught up recently but CRT is still king for ultimate picture quality.

For a lot of people, me included the size limitations of CRT and the lack of HD rules them out.

Dont read too much into contrast ratio, a bright plasma screen with a 3000:1 will still look crap if it can't do decent black levels, judders with HD feeds and is full of artefacts with SD feeds.

If your not wall mounting then the new HD ready DLP and 3LCD sets are worth a look.
Here's a screen shot of the new 50" 3LCD Sony.


Cheers
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Old 28 November 2005, 09:16 AM
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Have a look on www.avforums.co.uk

The two favourite plasmas at the moment seem to be the Panasonic Vieras - PE50 (42" for around 1400 with stand) and PV500 (42"Around 2k with stand). They are very similar sets, but the PV500 is HD ready.

The reviews I've read say that these two have as good if not better pictures than very good CRT TV's.
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I had a 32 inch CRT which had an excellent picture becuase we get a very strong signal from the TV masts.

The 42 " plasma I have got now has at least the picture quality of the CRT and the size of the picture is a positive advantage. The depth of colour is significantly better too.

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Old 28 November 2005, 01:39 PM
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I can see the Mast from my roof ..... hence our indoor aerial works perfect.

So, maybe, a Plasma??

Pete
Old 28 November 2005, 03:10 PM
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Why is it when u see the LCDs and plasmas in Dixons and alike they all look sh1tty and pixelated then? And all the major brands seem to be like this to me. Look at a decent sized (32" or more) CRT and they are crisp and as expected.
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Originally Posted by Sub97
The reviews I've read say that these two have as good if not better pictures than very good CRT TV's.
I was watching one of the Patrick Vieras in Comet doing HD, with a stuntplane doing loads of tricks, and the judder of the background was noticeable. I was standing only about 4ft away, but still.
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That CRT, Panasonic TX36PL32, has just been offered to me for £650 this afternoon ............................ its the last one in the shop, I reckon I can get it for £600!

I think this makes sense, gives me a large screen with outstanding picture, at a price that won't break the bank and I'll feel better changing it in 6 years time when 45" HD Ready LCDs are £500!?

The picture is better than the LCDs and Plasmas as far as I can see??

Right? or wrong?

Pete


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