StickyMicky

whats the best for detecting fake notes??

one of my staff got stung this morning with a £20
i noticed it as the colour was "off" it has slightly blurry print and a few other faults

the hologram looks a bit gash, the water mark is there but does not look the same as the other £20 notes we have. the serial note number on the right hand side looks like it was printed on epson`s finest

been looking at detector pens, im told the uv light testing machines can be fooled with sum kind of spray over the note?

TyPe~~R

I've got a marker pen from the police that turns fake notes brown when u draw on them, or it stays clear if there real. Its only cheep but it seems to work fine to me.

mart360

Cash, only found at the chavvy establisments

lol Mick,

i,d have thought you were chip and pin/ credit cards myself..

the pens are fine, provding you put the lids back on after use, and allow for them running out

or put your prices up so its £50,s only


Mart

StickyMicky

its only funny until you end up with one of them in your own wallet

i can vouch that much

LMAO @ chip and pin for a carwash
daftest idea of the day, the cars are going into the wash 1 per 60 secs on busy days, chip and pin takes a long time, on my busiest periods were doing 330 cars a day into the carwash

Buckrogers

Education for the staff?
What to look and feel for?

StickyMicky

i pointed out the IMO blatent flaws with the note

and was met with
"wow thats a dam good copy"

mart360

psml


hang on Mick, lets do the math your turning £6000+ a day (based on your £20) on your busy days, and your moaning on a duff 20 in your wallet..

were you christned Sticky donald trump micky??

put it down to acceptable losses, see your accountant and write it off as a tax loss

Mart

any chance of a SN discount

Scooby Soon!

We used to have this problem in some of our shops, do you know the easiest way to stop it? Also works with all scottish and Irish money.

You pay it back to them in there wages (hopefully you still give them a real paypacket on a friday) when we started dishing out the scottish notes as well as the dodgey forgeries in there wage packets amazingly they stopped coming through the till, certainly makes them check them better when they accept them!!!

GC8

Youve really made yourself look like a **** there havent you?

jono300

iTrader: (8)

Will give you a real £5 note for every one you find in your wallet from now on - deal ??!!!

FASTER MIKE!!

the best was is to make a slight tare through the water mark a real one will have some tinfoil type material for the water mark, the fake will have nothing, thought there will be a water mark when held upto light. sometime the pens dont work as the counterfitters have the real paper that they make the money with

mike

paulwrxboro

The only real way to tell is rip it tiny bit were the silver line is if it rips its fake
if it stops at the line its real 100% fool proof

nobody and i mean nobody can put that line inside the note

paulwrxboro

Should of just put ..what mike said

FASTER MIKE!!

lol

mart360

and thats why they are fake.

money is not printed on paper, by definition money is printed on cloth.

Mart

GC8

The water-mark isnt tin foil ffs; its a water-mark! As Mart says, money is printed on 'paper' with a very high rag content and commercial papers dont really come close.

The give aways are the feel (of the print and the paper) whichs hard to describe, but the 'Bank of England' script will be noticably proud of the paper. Bank notes have the metalised areas applied before printing, so theyll be over-printed whereas forgeries have it applied after printing so they wont ever be printed over. Finally; if you still cant tel.l.... check that the foil strip is present.

Ive seen a fair bit of forged money and I havent ever seen a decent facsimile.....

The Zohan

Just brilliant and educational - I like it!

jjones

and illegal!

Scooby Soon!

So its fine for staff to take fake money when they are accepting it on my behalf but I am not allowed to give it back to them? That may be legally true but what I suggested above will only need to be done once and it will prove the point. Watch how good they become at checking notes when they open any future wage packets, the practice will help them prevent any more coming throught the till! (they will develope eagle eyes!)

You will find with most staff that they don't really care because they will always get there wage packet at the end of the week. Just the "threat" that they will be getting them in there wage packet if any more are accepted should do the job.

Iwan

I wondered this when I last sold a car (cash) so I checked the BoE website. To be sure you need a UV lamp and a money tester pen, I blagged a pen from on of the till staff at my local DIY superstore by offering to put a quid in the charity tin. I assume they're also available from office supplies shops.

Then print out this for your staff: http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/kyb_lo_res.pdf

And one of these laminated to stick up where it's visible to the customers: http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/poster.pdf

If the customers are aware that you're checking it might make people passing them intentionally go elsewhere.

DonnieDarko

we had one in one of our restaurants.

it had watermarks, very simliar paper, the foil line is in there, only thing to show it as a fake was the silver crest mark on the front had worn off. looks like it had been passed off to MANY places before us.

XRS

Just send me all your cash and I'll let you know.


I may be some time

mbc

a well trained member of staff doesnt need any machines or pens, i just pay it back to my workers in their wages like the guy above said, if you dont feel comfortable doing that just dock their wages that will stop them taking them

StickyMicky

good idea

cheers, there's no such thing as acceptable losses IMO

The Rani

Some of the forgeries these days are so good even the banks/cash dispensers hand them out cos no-one's noticed. Always found a pen the cheapest way of detecting them.

kilo_4que

but as far as im aware at banks they dont even need to check individual notes as they have a set weight and can weigh legit notes, well thats at least wot ive been told

The Rani

Why, then, do a lot of banks still check the notes and count them as well, if it is that foolproof?