just paid over 2500 for our honeymoon cruise and lost the lot
25 October 2005, 01:19 PM
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just paid over 2500 for our honeymoon cruise and lost the lot
totally devastated get married in nov booked a cruise starts 24th nov via last minute.com, went through all details paid via c card etc
then the wife says have to fill in visa on plane ( starts from miami america)
she calls em to ask details and they say crim records more than likely a problem will take 14 weeks to clear the visa via american embasy in uk
they wont refund us, my missis is crying her heart out as we now have no honeymoon, and wont be able to pay for another, we couldnt even afford it in first place hence paid credit card
doesnt look like they will even offer us another cruise (carnival cruises)
totally devistated, they didnt tell us about visa aplications atall, never been abroad before
im so gutted i could cry myself
then the wife says have to fill in visa on plane ( starts from miami america)
she calls em to ask details and they say crim records more than likely a problem will take 14 weeks to clear the visa via american embasy in uk
they wont refund us, my missis is crying her heart out as we now have no honeymoon, and wont be able to pay for another, we couldnt even afford it in first place hence paid credit card
doesnt look like they will even offer us another cruise (carnival cruises)
totally devistated, they didnt tell us about visa aplications atall, never been abroad before
im so gutted i could cry myself
25 October 2005, 01:26 PM
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Speak to the American embassy, see if you can book an appointment to go to see them and explain what the offences are and egt it sorted.
Yoyu are likely to have a problem if the offences are
Drug related
Terrorist related
weapons related
Civil unrest related
Fraud/Theif
Peodphile
rapist
Murderer
kidnappping
that sort of thing
Your choices are to be honest and hope for the best but do try to see them
Or lie from the outset and hope you do not get found out.
remember the Americans are 'twitchy' about immigration and such at the moment. I would not want to **** about with them. The best outcome would be being deported or you could end up 'doing time'
Yoyu are likely to have a problem if the offences are
Drug related
Terrorist related
weapons related
Civil unrest related
Fraud/Theif
Peodphile
rapist
Murderer
kidnappping
that sort of thing
Your choices are to be honest and hope for the best but do try to see them
Or lie from the outset and hope you do not get found out.
remember the Americans are 'twitchy' about immigration and such at the moment. I would not want to **** about with them. The best outcome would be being deported or you could end up 'doing time'
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25 October 2005, 01:32 PM
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If serious about your above comments I would try this one on the 5-0 board.
If going to the Embassy take all the paperwork with you.
I am no expert but robbery and possesion of drugs is not in your favour.
If going to the Embassy take all the paperwork with you.
I am no expert but robbery and possesion of drugs is not in your favour.
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25 October 2005, 01:44 PM
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It only a green card thingy that you fill in on the flight over and hand in at immigration. They don't even look at them, just file them away. I wouldn't worry about it.
25 October 2005, 01:45 PM
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On the aeroplane you'll be given a card to fill in as part of the US visa waiver scheme. You can just fill it in and decalre 'No' to all the appropriate questions. None of your wifes convictions will be on any US immigration systems. You'd have to be very unlucky to be randomly picked out and held while they contacted UK authorities to check up on you, in fact i've never heard of that happening.
25 October 2005, 01:51 PM
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Quoted from http://metrotravel.carnivalcruise.co.uk/terms
"Visas for shore excursions are sometimes required by certain countries. The Company will notify the Passenger of these requirements and it is the Passengers responsibility to obtain the visa at the Passengers cost."
Did they notify you of this? If not you should be entitled to a refund.
If they still won't refund you contact your credit card company and get them to refund it.
"Visas for shore excursions are sometimes required by certain countries. The Company will notify the Passenger of these requirements and it is the Passengers responsibility to obtain the visa at the Passengers cost."
Did they notify you of this? If not you should be entitled to a refund.
If they still won't refund you contact your credit card company and get them to refund it.
25 October 2005, 01:52 PM
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No, do you mean Machine readable passports? They've been around for years...it means just that, that the passport is readable by a machine. That system then pulls up any details it has on you...in apples case, none, as they haven't been to the US before or even abroad. His visit and later exit will be logged and if he comes back they can then see that he's visited once before.
25 October 2005, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Champion
Quoted from http://metrotravel.carnivalcruise.co.uk/terms
"Visas for shore excursions are sometimes required by certain countries. The Company will notify the Passenger of these requirements and it is the Passengers responsibility to obtain the visa at the Passengers cost."
Did they notify you of this? If not you should be entitled to a refund.
If they still won't refund you contact your credit card company and get them to refund it.
"Visas for shore excursions are sometimes required by certain countries. The Company will notify the Passenger of these requirements and it is the Passengers responsibility to obtain the visa at the Passengers cost."
Did they notify you of this? If not you should be entitled to a refund.
If they still won't refund you contact your credit card company and get them to refund it.
25 October 2005, 01:57 PM
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If paid by cc, don't they (visa etc) offer a legal advice service for "disputed transactions?"
similarly, travel insurance?
That stinks, I don't see how they have the right to keep the full payment for a cancellation that you could not have known about before. Keep 10 or 20% maybe, but not the lot.
I'd also go to the newspapers and publicise it, though the crim charges won't make you a focus of sympathy.
similarly, travel insurance?
That stinks, I don't see how they have the right to keep the full payment for a cancellation that you could not have known about before. Keep 10 or 20% maybe, but not the lot.
I'd also go to the newspapers and publicise it, though the crim charges won't make you a focus of sympathy.
25 October 2005, 01:59 PM
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**** it then as ts just a fill in card thing on flight should be ok then, i suppose if it was a proper visa aplication to work in usa etc thats different
25 October 2005, 02:02 PM
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Assuming it was a conviction for robbery as opposed to a charge, bearing in mind violence or a threat of violence was involved, I doubt the US would be too welcoming.
A glimmer of hope - Does anyone know whether spent convictions count?
A glimmer of hope - Does anyone know whether spent convictions count?
25 October 2005, 02:15 PM
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I wouldnt care, wifey can still go but IF you got pulled up Id rather spend a bit of time over the US cells for £2500 than lose the lot...lol go get your moneys worth and get on the plane 
25 October 2005, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I wouldnt care, wifey can still go but IF you got pulled up Id rather spend a bit of time over the US cells for £2500 than lose the lot...lol go get your moneys worth and get on the plane
25 October 2005, 02:35 PM
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OH MY GOD TOTAL RELIEF WIFEY BEEN ON TEL AGES WE4 GOT OUT OF IT HOLIDAY CANCELLED 
I SHALL NOW FIND A HOLIDAY THAT DOESNT GO THROUGH AMERICAN SOIL
I SHALL NOW FIND A HOLIDAY THAT DOESNT GO THROUGH AMERICAN SOIL
25 October 2005, 02:35 PM
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aye but for £2500 Id run the risk, after all what are the odds on being caught out. To be fair Id try the honest approach like someone else suggested first but noway would I be writing off 2.5k without a fight, least get the money back from the credit card.
25 October 2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
A bit of time in the cells could be any amount of time. I doubt the penalty for lying on any US paperwork is treated lightly.
25 October 2005, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by apples24
OH MY GOD TOTAL RELIEF WIFEY BEEN ON TEL AGES WE4 GOT OUT OF IT HOLIDAY CANCELLED
I SHALL NOW FIND A HOLIDAY THAT DOESNT GO THROUGH AMERICAN SOIL
I SHALL NOW FIND A HOLIDAY THAT DOESNT GO THROUGH AMERICAN SOIL
