The Unteachables - an opinion
11 October 2005, 09:46 PM
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The Unteachables - an opinion
I believe that children who behave the way some of the kids on this programme do, shouldn't be treated to special schooling and opportunities they don't deserve. Instead, I feel that they would be better off being used as an energy source to heat retirement homes and hospitals in the winter...
11 October 2005, 09:51 PM
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Ho............you should see the amount spent by our LEA in a TINY authority on sending those sorts of kids to different schools, some HUNDREDS of miles from here and ALL TRANSPORT PAID!!
Get chucked out of one school, the authority PAY for transport to another, sometimes a TAXI
Disgusting
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Get chucked out of one school, the authority PAY for transport to another, sometimes a TAXI
Disgusting
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11 October 2005, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_dr
I believe that children who behave the way some of the kids on this programme do, shouldn't be treated to special schooling and opportunities they don't deserve. Instead, I feel that they would be better off being used as an energy source to heat retirement homes and hospitals in the winter...
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11 October 2005, 10:29 PM
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Yea, because it would be cheaper keeping them in prison after they resorted to a life of crime instead.
No wait, it wouldn't - actually it would cost at least twice as much.
So your solution to is to abandon any problem that seems difficult? Does the same apply to, say, the disabled? They're expensive to teach as well. Or are you going to say it's these kids' own fault they are badly behaved?
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No wait, it wouldn't - actually it would cost at least twice as much.
So your solution to is to abandon any problem that seems difficult? Does the same apply to, say, the disabled? They're expensive to teach as well. Or are you going to say it's these kids' own fault they are badly behaved?
M
11 October 2005, 10:50 PM
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I could read and write (basic stuff) when I started school at 5. I remember always being jealous of the kids that got "special help" they read the easy books and got to do fun things one to one with "special helpers"
We would walk past the "special school" on our way to school and see kids being dropped off by taxi. We would look in at the swings, see-saws and slides, the hopscotch squares painted on the soft playing surface and then we would get to our school with its bare tarmac yard, not even a bench to sit on. We would cram into our class room (40+ pupils to one class) and share books from the 1960's!
We wanted to be "special" too
We would walk past the "special school" on our way to school and see kids being dropped off by taxi. We would look in at the swings, see-saws and slides, the hopscotch squares painted on the soft playing surface and then we would get to our school with its bare tarmac yard, not even a bench to sit on. We would cram into our class room (40+ pupils to one class) and share books from the 1960's!
We wanted to be "special" too
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The solution to these problems is to neuter anyone leaving school;
a) with no o levels (or whatever they're called now)
b) Before they reach the age of 16
c) with a drink / drug problem
Would take a generation but would sort it
a) with no o levels (or whatever they're called now)
b) Before they reach the age of 16
c) with a drink / drug problem
Would take a generation but would sort it
12 October 2005, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Reality
The solution to these problems is to neuter anyone leaving school;
a) with no o levels (or whatever they're called now)
b) Before they reach the age of 16
c) with a drink / drug problem
Would take a generation but would sort it
a) with no o levels (or whatever they're called now)
b) Before they reach the age of 16
c) with a drink / drug problem
Would take a generation but would sort it
If I was PM I probably would be thinking along these very lines !
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12 October 2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
Probably the best solution to be honest, but can you imagine what the leftie lettice munching idiots would say to that !
If I was PM I probably would be thinking along these very lines !
Richard
If I was PM I probably would be thinking along these very lines !
Richard
... ore likely just be sat behind some keyboard somewhere ranting on a web forum .. 
12 October 2005, 11:34 AM
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Yes you are correct probably wouldn't get voted in to be PM !
Honestly believe that the majority of parents are to blame for their badly behaved childen, I realise there are some genuine cases where children with difficulties / learning difficulties can only release tension / frustration through aggression etc and these need and deserved to be treated differently.
Yet I still feel that most "special case" children are no more special than other but have parent/s that spend time with them and have instilled some basic disapline into them.
Forgot to add that at the rate that this country is going, one or possibly more of the solutions mentioned above may well have to be considered !
Richard
Honestly believe that the majority of parents are to blame for their badly behaved childen, I realise there are some genuine cases where children with difficulties / learning difficulties can only release tension / frustration through aggression etc and these need and deserved to be treated differently.
Yet I still feel that most "special case" children are no more special than other but have parent/s that spend time with them and have instilled some basic disapline into them.
Forgot to add that at the rate that this country is going, one or possibly more of the solutions mentioned above may well have to be considered !
Richard
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12 October 2005, 01:02 PM
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Unfortunately, the problems kids are having now are a direct result of left-wing activists gaining control of our schools in the seventies, they spent,and still spend, so long teaching kids about their rights, they have no time left to teach them about their responsibilities
Unfortunately Dave, if he can do all that before he reaches school and goes to a typical comprehensive, he will soon get branded 'difficult' by all the teachers because he will be getting bored and restless whilst the teachers are forced to concentrate on the poor kids whose parents don't give a toss Trust me, monitor your kid's progress AT ALL TIMES
Originally Posted by hutton d
I'm with you on this one! I'm 100% certain that my son (now 16 months) will NOT end up like those *******. He will be able to read rite and do rithmetic by the time he goes to secondary school. In fact well before that!
Dave
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Trust me, monitor your kid's progress AT ALL TIMES
12 October 2005, 02:53 PM
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Unfortunately, the problems kids are having now are a direct result of left-wing activists gaining control of our schools in the seventies, they spent,and still spend, so long teaching kids about their rights, they have no time left to teach them about their responsibilities
Unfortunately Dave, if he can do all that before he reaches school and goes to a typical comprehensive, he will soon get branded 'difficult' by all the teachers because he will be getting bored and restless whilst the teachers are forced to concentrate on the poor kids whose parents don't give a toss Trust me, monitor your kid's progress AT ALL TIMES
Unfortunately Dave, if he can do all that before he reaches school and goes to a typical comprehensive, he will soon get branded 'difficult' by all the teachers because he will be getting bored and restless whilst the teachers are forced to concentrate on the poor kids whose parents don't give a toss
Trust me, monitor your kid's progress AT ALL TIMES
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12 October 2005, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
Didn't China in the 70's or 80's have a two children limit per family ?
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12 October 2005, 03:40 PM
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Blimey I'm amazed that everyone on here was such a complete angel when they were at school.
Obviously "we" never disrupted classes, never got sent out of lessons, never played weak teachers up. never gave any lip to adults, class A students all of us.
Come off it, surely everyone recognises that not all people learn the same way, therefore a classroom environment is not going to work for all kids, this program just gave a very small insight into how different methods culd be used to motivate different individuals. I agree there were some real ******* in there but there were also others that weren't that bad. Zak for one.
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Obviously "we" never disrupted classes, never got sent out of lessons, never played weak teachers up. never gave any lip to adults, class A students all of us.
Come off it, surely everyone recognises that not all people learn the same way, therefore a classroom environment is not going to work for all kids, this program just gave a very small insight into how different methods culd be used to motivate different individuals. I agree there were some real ******* in there but there were also others that weren't that bad. Zak for one.
Rgds
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12 October 2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport160
Obviously "we" never disrupted classes, never got sent out of lessons, never played weak teachers up. never gave any lip to adults, class A students all of us.
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12 October 2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport160
Blimey I'm amazed that everyone on here was such a complete angel when they were at school.
Obviously "we" never disrupted classes, never got sent out of lessons, never played weak teachers up. never gave any lip to adults, class A students all of us.
Come off it, surely everyone recognises that not all people learn the same way, therefore a classroom environment is not going to work for all kids, this program just gave a very small insight into how different methods culd be used to motivate different individuals. I agree there were some real ******* in there but there were also others that weren't that bad. Zak for one.
Rgds
Neil
Obviously "we" never disrupted classes, never got sent out of lessons, never played weak teachers up. never gave any lip to adults, class A students all of us.
Come off it, surely everyone recognises that not all people learn the same way, therefore a classroom environment is not going to work for all kids, this program just gave a very small insight into how different methods culd be used to motivate different individuals. I agree there were some real ******* in there but there were also others that weren't that bad. Zak for one.
Rgds
Neil
The message seems to be - play the **** and you'll get a better start in life than if you just buckle down and try harder.
Unteachables should be put down - save us a fortune in Taxes, police time, court time, disrupted class time for others etc etc etc.
Extreme but effective.
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12 October 2005, 05:06 PM
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I believe that children are our future,
teach them well and let them lead the way,
show them all the beauty they possess inside,
give them a sense of pride ....
teach them well and let them lead the way,
show them all the beauty they possess inside,
give them a sense of pride ....
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