douglasb

An Aussie mate has a track behind his house with the remains of an old car on it. Making guesses based on where he lives, we reckon that someone tried a bit of bush exploring in the 1920s and got stuck.

We've established that the car wasn't a Ford Model T, but reckon that it is of that era.

Here are some photos.

A rear brake. Instead of having internally expanding shoes, it has an externally contracting belt. The diameter of the drum is about 285mm.


The other rear brake.


Casting marks on the cylinder block.


Part of the chassis.


The steering box. It's right hand drive.


The cylinder block. On the other side are 3 inlet ports and 2 exhaust.


Top of the block. It's a 4 cylinder with a bore of around 87mm (measured with his daughter's school ruler!).


The bottom of the sump has rusted away to reveal a 3 bearing crankshaft.



Anyone got any ideas?

David Lock

Is it Lewis's car after the oil change?

IPKIS

Leslie

Oh dear, just picked myself off the floor after that one

Will he restore it?

Les

Chip Sengravy

I'll stick my neckout here, and say it may be just beyond econimical repair

David Lock

Serious mode - you could try sending piccies to some anorak magazine like Practical Classics? But I expect Oz has its own vintage car clubs so your mate may want to start there. I think he is pushing his luck though...... dl

ajm

Check this out:

http://www.buickclub.org.au/Buick_Pa...-%20The%20Trip

Buick did an Australian tour, and its fitted with band brakes!

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

that chassis is too short to be a buick, imho.

I think its a crossley 20/25.

maybe wrong.

jamo

ajm

You are probably right... I know nothing about 1920 cars... I just posted the first decent link that came up after googling for {"band brakes" australia}

douglasb

We googled for something similar and found the Buick link (thinking that band brakes should be a giveaway). We thought that we'd cracked it, but a bit of further digging showed that the cylinder bore didn't match with anything Buick.

douglasb

Did a Google. The Crossley had a cylinder bore of 100mm. It also only had rear brakes whereas this thing had four wheel brakes. There was a smaller 15/30 which had optional front brakes and was sold in Australia. Hmmmm...

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think band brakes were used on quite a few different cars back then, ranging from oldsmobile right through to Mercedes.

But the engine capacity with a 87mm ish bore your looking at around 2000cc to 2400cc at the most depending on the stroke (which looks around 90-100ish mm ). That may help.

IPKIS

Is it for sale i like a challenge

Turbohot

^ typical Ipkis!

douglasb

Ali - that engine size ties in with the Crossley 15/30 which appeared to be reasonably common in Australia. I can't find any details of the Crossley's brakes though.

I'll send the pics to Practical Classics and Honest John, but I thought I'd use the amazing knowledge of Scoobynet first.