Fish not well
28 May 2005, 08:27 AM
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Fish not well
Have got Koi, goldfish and various other fish in our pond, had noticed one of the goldfish had some sort of white sticky looking blobs on it, so took it out straight away and put in a separate tank. That has consequently died.
Had most of these fish well over a year with no problems at all.
Any ideas?
The water is clean, I'm always checking the filter ect.
Had most of these fish well over a year with no problems at all.
Any ideas?
The water is clean, I'm always checking the filter ect.
28 May 2005, 08:57 AM
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I'll ignore the jealous gooner again 
Dont put any kind of salt in it. Do top it up with tap water but do check ph and nitrate levels.
Over the last four or five weeks been putting some blanket weed treatment in, but nothing I've not used before
Dont put any kind of salt in it. Do top it up with tap water but do check ph and nitrate levels.
Over the last four or five weeks been putting some blanket weed treatment in, but nothing I've not used before
28 May 2005, 09:02 AM
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Was thinking of doing that. Going to take the Koi out and take a few piccys and see what they think. There are so many various treatments for this and that could go on forever
28 May 2005, 09:08 AM
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Yes see if you can get some pics of the affected fish and post them up here. As David said, on the face of it it sounds like fungus... but "white blobs" is a little unspecific. If it is an infection of some sort there could be an underlying cause like poor water conditions, or an open wound caused by something, ammonia burn etc...
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28 May 2005, 09:10 AM
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Had similar recently - used an FMG mix, but unfortunately lost half the fish. Do not buy cheap cr4ppy treatments, (as I did at first) - using these, infection spread to most of my koi, and killed of 10 of them, put some FMG mix into the pond, and the rest cleared up in a few days!
FMG is used for both fungal and bacterial infection, If there is a fungal infection, then there will most likely be a bacterial infection which has allowed the fungus to grow on a weakend fish!
Act quick though, so your fish have a fighting chance (unlike mine
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FMG is used for both fungal and bacterial infection, If there is a fungal infection, then there will most likely be a bacterial infection which has allowed the fungus to grow on a weakend fish!
Act quick though, so your fish have a fighting chance (unlike mine
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28 May 2005, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Yes see if you can get some pics of the affected fish and post them up here. As David said, on the face of it it sounds like fungus... but "white blobs" is a little unspecific. If it is an infection of some sort there could be an underlying cause like poor water conditions, or an open wound caused by something, ammonia burn etc...
The water conditions do seem good, have a large enough filter, do the various tests ect. The Koi hasn't any wounds either
28 May 2005, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyFlow
Had similar recently - used an FMG mix, but unfortunately lost half the fish. Do not buy cheap cr4ppy treatments, (as I did at first) - using these, infection spread to most of my koi, and killed of 10 of them, put some FMG mix into the pond, and the rest cleared up in a few days!
FMG is used for both fungal and bacterial infection, If there is a fungal infection, then there will most likely be a bacterial infection which has allowed the fungus to grow on a weakend fish!
Act quick though, so your fish have a fighting chance (unlike mine )
FMG is used for both fungal and bacterial infection, If there is a fungal infection, then there will most likely be a bacterial infection which has allowed the fungus to grow on a weakend fish!
Act quick though, so your fish have a fighting chance (unlike mine
)
28 May 2005, 10:08 AM
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Using freeze dried salt is part and parcel of keeping Koi carp.
Normal car washing bucket add two handfulls of salt & mix, then introduce across the pool, not all in one place.
I have been keeping Koi for many years & have some woppers, lost one a couple of weeks ago due to heart or kidney failure, no other signs of illness.
I fill mine with tap water, and am lucky with the local water quality. using the correct salt once in a while helps contol organisms & also helps build up a protectant on the fishes outer body, this helps to prevent disease.
Also to protect oxygen content now the warmer days are here, you need to add a couple of air stones to your pool. the oxygen is at its lowest at day break, adding air stones also improves your ponds surface area.
Also remove any kind of sharp rocks or stones you may have in your pool, as the fish can dart about quite quickly & could get damaged by these objects.
My fish are healthy & large, my pool may well be overstocked but looking after water quality is important, plus regular 25/30% water changes is usefull, I suggest for you at the moment at least once a week.
Your problem does sound like fish pox, which usually dissapears, your loss may not just be down to the sticky blobs, don't worry though, just keep your eye on the rest.
I also had a major problem with blanket weed, for the very first time. I used something called blanket killer, in a red box available form most aquatic centres, now nothing at all....
Cheers
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Normal car washing bucket add two handfulls of salt & mix, then introduce across the pool, not all in one place.
I have been keeping Koi for many years & have some woppers, lost one a couple of weeks ago due to heart or kidney failure, no other signs of illness.
I fill mine with tap water, and am lucky with the local water quality. using the correct salt once in a while helps contol organisms & also helps build up a protectant on the fishes outer body, this helps to prevent disease.
Also to protect oxygen content now the warmer days are here, you need to add a couple of air stones to your pool. the oxygen is at its lowest at day break, adding air stones also improves your ponds surface area.
Also remove any kind of sharp rocks or stones you may have in your pool, as the fish can dart about quite quickly & could get damaged by these objects.
My fish are healthy & large, my pool may well be overstocked but looking after water quality is important, plus regular 25/30% water changes is usefull, I suggest for you at the moment at least once a week.
Your problem does sound like fish pox, which usually dissapears, your loss may not just be down to the sticky blobs, don't worry though, just keep your eye on the rest.
I also had a major problem with blanket weed, for the very first time. I used something called blanket killer, in a red box available form most aquatic centres, now nothing at all....
Cheers
PNB
28 May 2005, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
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I also had a major problem with blanket weed, for the very first time. I used something called blanket killer, in a red box available form most aquatic centres, now nothing at all....
Cheers
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I've sent you a PM about blanket weed - hope you don't mind (didn't want to hijack this thread). David
28 May 2005, 01:42 PM
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28 May 2005, 04:04 PM
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Yeah sorry not my best effort. Though this fish doesn't seem to have the same sticky stuff the other one had, more concerned about the fin rot. Been to the aquatic centre and picked up some treatment for it.
28 May 2005, 10:16 PM
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Take a look at our Medicated food,I feed my koi on it all the time,very rarely get any problems with them.
http://www.dorsetdiscus.com/feed.html
http://www.dorsetdiscus.com/feed.html
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I have a 5000 gallon pond and suffer terribly with blanket weed, even grows in the winter, a mate told me about Viresco Aqua so I have purchased a packet and will try it when I get home...work offshore.
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