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Old 27 May 2005, 07:52 PM
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I think my TV has just died

It's a 32 inch, 50Hz Philips widescreen, guessing about 5 years old.

TV turned itself off whilst I was watching it. tiny bit of smoke came out but none since. Red light on tv flickered a bit but now not at all. Fuse is ok. Cover taken off, nothing 'obviously' wrong but TBH I don't know what to look for.

Anyone help/any ideas?
Old 27 May 2005, 08:01 PM
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Don't **** with it unless you know what you are doing, capicitors(sp?) may still carry a hell of a charge.

try to get e reccommendation for a local reparier.

Sounds like it is with repairing but often this can lead to other problems, telly's do not like being 'disturbed'

I can ask with the professional video type people i know if you like but most based in London.

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Old 27 May 2005, 08:02 PM
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TBh 5 years out of a TV now is about the norm.
Old 27 May 2005, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PG
TBh 5 years out of a TV now is about the norm.
I do not recon thats enough, usually get 8-10 years
My latest Sony 28 widescreen - now 8 y/o is fine, had to tweak the contrast but other than that OK in every way
14" in the bedroom (telly ) is 15 y/o and apart frrom winding the contrast up it is still fine

I recon on 10 years for a CRT is good going.

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Old 27 May 2005, 08:08 PM
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Roughly how much will a local repairer 'charge' to come look at it?
Old 27 May 2005, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
I do not recon thats enough
True but I said the nom. not what is enough.
as for costs. Depends where you are.
I am in the sticks in Scotland. You are looking at £65 to get it picked up tested repaired + parts.
To get someone to come and just look at it and repair it in the house would be unusual unless it was a homer.

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Old 27 May 2005, 08:14 PM
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est. £ 60.00 to look at it. That should buy an hour. If they cannot find the fault in an hour than they are not worth the effort, best get a reccommendation for a repairer if you can if you know what i mean.

I would imagine it is a PSU (power supply unit) problem, bigger telly's use a fair bit of juice to 'strike' (fire up) up from off.

however, really could be anything and i am just guessing.

Hot weather may have brought the fault on, are all of the vents clear?, mine clog with dust and stuff, i hoover the telly when i/mrs I clean the lounge to keep 'em clean.

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Old 27 May 2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PG
TBh 5 years out of a TV now is about the norm.
five years sucks!
Old 27 May 2005, 08:17 PM
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My Sony Trinitron 14" tv is now 22 years old!!
Cost £240 back in 1983, which was probably a fortune at the time, but the picture quality is still fantastic!! Had to get a small repair on it recently, and the repairman said it was a top notch tv, with the picture quality still rivalling portable tvs of today!
Old 27 May 2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
five years sucks!
True but it is to be expected with the way TVs are produced now.
Everything is plastic now, solders are crap and so on.
Other than the really old sets the best lasting sets I work on are B&o stuff but again they are getting slightly lesser in quality.
Old 27 May 2005, 08:43 PM
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happened to me last week only mine went on fire properly at half 6 in the morning
funny now but not at the time
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Old 27 May 2005, 11:30 PM
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If you had a puff of smoke then obviously it has had component failure. This could be in any of the power stages ie power supply ,line or field stage, or even sound output. Virtually all tvs these days are not field servicable, due to poor cable lengths and mounting of large flexible pcbs. So it would be wiser to have it collected and repaired in a workshop( this needs 2 blokes to lift it, I used to carry them on my own but I am built like a brick Sh*t house). Be prepared to spend anything from £60 to £150 in repairs for relatively straight forward faults. You're better off taking it to philips dealer because some of the faults need a laptop diagnostic to locate the fault, unlikely in your case as you saw smoke. The most common chassis's philips use in recent years are the A10 or the L series. Warning modern philips tubes are prone to premature failure (1 to 5 years), if this is the case with yours it will cost in excess of £500 to replace.

Andy ex tv engineer
Old 27 May 2005, 11:36 PM
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Cheers.

Thinking of replacing it rather than risk spending £60/£150 for something that might break again a few months down the line.

Still, it lasted me 2/3 years and it was ex-rental at the time so saved loads.

Local place selling almost the same tv for £250 2nd hand. But might go for 100hz and flatscreen for £399 with free delivery.

Is a flatscreen *that* much better than normal? What's the difference anyway? What benefit will I see from the 100hz over 50hz?

Andy - any makes you recommend or ones to steer clear of?
Old 27 May 2005, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
My Sony Trinitron 14" tv is now 22 years old!!
Cost £240 back in 1983, which was probably a fortune at the time, but the picture quality is still fantastic!! Had to get a small repair on it recently, and the repairman said it was a top notch tv, with the picture quality still rivalling portable tvs of today!
& still in the main lounge
Old 28 May 2005, 07:48 AM
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Let me edumacate you on how TV's work:

The pictures are made from magic smoke inside the telly box. If the magic smoke escapes, you can't see the pretty pictures. You need some new magic smoke to make it work again.
Old 28 May 2005, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Let me edumacate you on how TV's work:

The pictures are made from magic smoke inside the telly box. If the magic smoke escapes, you can't see the pretty pictures. You need some new magic smoke to make it work again.
quite true here you can see the magic smoke escaping my tv

and as explained above it no longer works
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Old 28 May 2005, 10:02 AM
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What a great excuse to buy a new one !
Old 28 May 2005, 10:06 AM
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You were hoping to fix it yourself or you wouldn't have posted here. Sounds like a capacitor in the power supply to me...
Old 28 May 2005, 10:30 AM
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