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Old 17 May 2005, 10:03 AM
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I recieved a NIP from Humberside police today for driving at the reckless speed of 79mph on the M180, a 3 lane motroway and very light traffic, I saw the officer on the bridge over the motorway and my indicated speed was 75 so I thought I was ok....wrong, must not have got his legover the night before or something.
Jeez, most cars on motorways do 80mph and police generally ignore this and chase the ones who are well over the limit.

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Old 17 May 2005, 10:07 AM
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But the limit is still 70mph...by your own admission you saw an officer and failed to bring your speed down to the limit. I appreciate what you are saying about generally getting ignored at that speed, you were unlucky, but it does happen and you'll have to pay up...bitch isn't it
Old 17 May 2005, 10:46 AM
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A group of us passed a Talivan on there a few weeks back at 7.30am on a saturday It was a beautiful, dry sunny day and we were almost the only cars on the road so it was obviously all about safety Thankfully, when in convoy we (WYIOC) never speed, as the convoy leader would feel responsible, so the b@stard didn't get a penny from us We spent the rest of the day sideways at 100mph on a privately hired track And funnily enough, none of us died even though we were driving at over 30mph

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Old 17 May 2005, 10:48 AM
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Strange. An indicated speed (I'm assuming this was on the speedo here) is usually higher than actual speed as IIRC it's illegal to have a speedometer which under-reads. In mine (classic on 17s), a reading on the speedo of 75mph relates to an actual speed (according to GPS) of less than 70 (think it's 67-68).
Old 17 May 2005, 11:41 AM
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Yeh your speedo needs checkin, the indicated 75 u saw should of meant u were on the limit, not above it.
Old 17 May 2005, 11:42 AM
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Yeh your speedo needs checkin, the indicated 75 u saw should of meant u were on the limit, not above it. Which means he prolly clocked you earlier, i.e when u were doing 80 or more
Old 17 May 2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Yeh your speedo needs checkin, the indicated 75 u saw should of meant u were on the limit, not above it. Which means he prolly clocked you earlier, i.e when u were doing 80 or more
You dont have to give in so easily - There are a few things to do - Did you receive the NIP within 2 weeks of being caught? If later they cannot do anything about it. If everyone in the country caused them grief they would not be able to sustain the amount of £60 fines - Imagine if everyone went to court they would be shafted completely.

Personally I would post on the www.pepipoo.com website and get some real advice. You can exercise your right to remain silent - There is a few things you can do but put a post on and see your options.
Old 17 May 2005, 01:22 PM
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The dreaded humberside scammers. There are a number of members on pepipoo who have been allegedily caught doing 79mph. They are a miserable, lying bunch of scammers, topping up their revenue on one of the quietest motorways in the country. Fortunately, they use the ever so reliable LTI20-20 laser.

Join pepipoo or become a full member(help fund the cases going to ECHR) and read all about humberside and their behaviour.

Remember, If you fight back and it goes to court, the scammers dont get a penny of your money-if your unlucky and lose. Well worth fighting just for that point alone. You're unlikey to get any more points than 3, slightly higher fine, again IF you lose. A number of legal defence options open to you, so use your 28 days wisely to research, visit www.pepipoo.com

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Old 17 May 2005, 01:30 PM
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79 is a bullsh!t figure. High enough to prosecute, low enough that most motorists will believe they were mistaken thinking their needle was hovering in the low-mid 70's.
Old 17 May 2005, 01:49 PM
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Made me wonder what all the fuss was about on the M4, Scumberside Scamera Partnership have been zapping on the M180 for two years or so now.

I'd pop over to pepipoo and take a look. At least one *very* interesting case is unfolding in Humberside atm. (you'll need to join)

Either that, or just pay up and get on with your life until the next NIP lands on the door mat.
Old 19 May 2005, 11:58 AM
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Might be worth asking for the picture.

Strange as others say to get clocked at 79 when you had 75 indicated. Seems too close to the 10% + 2 guidlines from ACPO.

From what is said, maybe the Humberside scammers are being a bit too vigilant.

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Old 08 June 2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Might be worth asking for the picture.

Strange as others say to get clocked at 79 when you had 75 indicated. Seems too close to the 10% + 2 guidlines from ACPO.

From what is said, maybe the Humberside scammers are being a bit too vigilant.

Les.
Just had a letter giving me the option of attending a speed seminar for 2 hours instead of a fine and points, £50 accepted......road angel..think thats my next buy.
Old 08 June 2005, 01:07 PM
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RA wont help u against mobile cameras It might detect, but it maybe too late.
Old 08 June 2005, 09:47 PM
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Dave,

do you have to "pass" the speed seminar, or just attend it?

If the latter, it would be soooo tempting to be as patronising back at "the authorities" as they are to us in the first place (e.g. remind them why the NSL was implemented in the first place, and what a model-T Ford was )

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Old 08 June 2005, 11:08 PM
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£50's damn good... in Lanca$hire, the anti speed propaganda day costs £90.

Dad's just signed up for one.

My thoughts are that if you've no other points, it's probably cheaper to pay the £60 and take the 3 points.

John.
Old 09 June 2005, 07:50 AM
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Those courses are a godsend to the retired police officers who run them, you were lucky it only cost £50. Worth it not to get the points though. They have you over a barrel of course.

Les
Old 09 June 2005, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by john_s
£50's damn good... in Lanca$hire, the anti speed propaganda day costs £90.

Dad's just signed up for one.

My thoughts are that if you've no other points, it's probably cheaper to pay the £60 and take the 3 points.

John.
Would that be right with the subsequent hike in insurance prices come your next renewal on something like a scooby?
Old 09 June 2005, 07:15 PM
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General consensus seems to be that most insurance companies will ignore one speeding fine on your record.

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Old 09 June 2005, 07:29 PM
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Patriot,a mate of mine got done for 79 on the M180 too,attended a seminar as well.
I got done in Grimsby for 38 in a 30 at 9pm on a bank holiday.******* never gave me the option.
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