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Old 06 May 2005, 07:46 PM
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Angry New Labour Old ways !!!!

Well less than 24 hrs in how did NL reward the loyalty of the sheep!!!


With Contempt...

i,m listening !CRAP!


Today

M27..... speed camera vans on the bridges !!!

remember Billy wants you alive.....

dead he cant fleece you...


M
Old 06 May 2005, 07:49 PM
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When he said he is listening he meant to the honest motorist NOT to the criminals who break the speed limits.

He said he will give the communities BACK to the people and that includes getting the anti-social speeders OFF our roads

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Old 06 May 2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
When he said he is listening he meant to the honest motorist NOT to the criminals who break the speed limits.

He said he will give the communities BACK to the people and that includes getting the anti-social speeders OFF our roads

Pete

Troll / sheep go sip cyanide..
Old 06 May 2005, 08:00 PM
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Stop speeding and wanting to get away with it!!

You are a scourge on society and we are out to take you OFF the roads

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Old 06 May 2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
When he said he is listening he meant to the honest motorist NOT to the criminals who break the speed limits.

He said he will give the communities BACK to the people and that includes getting the anti-social speeders OFF our roads

Pete
You arent a 'criminal' if you break the speed limit Pete ffs. Why do you keep trolling out the same jaded bollocks? Seeing as you obviously have time on your hands why not join the library. The first book you should read would be 'Labeling Theory' by Becker.
Old 06 May 2005, 08:27 PM
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The law sates you should not exceed X MPH on a set road, if you exceed this you are breaking the law, and if my understanding of criminal is correct? It is someone who breaks the law?
Old 06 May 2005, 08:34 PM
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It must be difficult seeing everything in black and white. Read the book.
Old 06 May 2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexuas
The law sates you should not exceed X MPH on a set road, if you exceed this you are breaking the law, and if my understanding of criminal is correct? It is someone who breaks the law?
Not according to GC8!

OK, you don't have a Criminal Record for speeding ......... you are STILL a criminal in the eyes of the community ...

And, today, the community have declared WAR on the anti-social behaviour of a few selfish idiots!!

BAN loud exhausts!

BAN those caught speeding twice in a built up area

BAN the yob culture

BAN the boomboxes

The Communities are going to take back the streets .......... so, stop speeding and risking our childrens lives!

Pete
Old 06 May 2005, 08:46 PM
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pete.!!...if thats your name..

have you lost the replacement needle for your gramaphone ....
Old 06 May 2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Not according to GC8!

OK, you don't have a Criminal Record for speeding ......... you are STILL a criminal in the eyes of the community ...

And, today, the community have declared WAR on the anti-social behaviour of a few selfish idiots!!

BAN loud exhausts!

BAN those caught speeding twice in a built up area

BAN the yob culture

BAN the boomboxes

The Communities are going to take back the streets .......... so, stop speeding and risking our childrens lives!

Pete
Pete

The people described above are the heart of the Labour vote. Without them Tony would be like Kinnock and Foot, therefore they will only gain in strength in the next 4 years.
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I will keep on being the voice of reason!!

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Old 06 May 2005, 09:05 PM
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I will keep on being the voice of reason!!

Pete
The local drug estates apparently have already got you down for an MBE, OBE and Knighthood. They thank you for keeping their drug dealing and criminal activity safe for another 4 years
Old 06 May 2005, 09:22 PM
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PETE !!!!!!!!!!!

WHO SAID I WAS F*CKIN SPEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i wasnt either!!!!

i reported a factual statement

you as per normal turn it into a opening gambit for a fight..

well

F*ck you and the mx5 / pseudo scooby you purport to own !!

i hope all your investments turn to ****, and billy screws you rotten!!


BAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH im pete the BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH sheeeep

troll go sip cyanide


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Old 06 May 2005, 09:25 PM
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lol at winging about the police, catching people who break the speed limit
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Mart

Are there any warnings of these vans?
They don't seem to have warning signs on the A34 in Hants when the vans are overhead so I wondered if they bothered to abide by the law regarding warning signs on the M27.
Old 06 May 2005, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
PETE !!!!!!!!!!!

WHO SAID I WAS F*CKIN SPEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i wasnt either!!!!

i reported a factual statement

you as per normal turn it into a opening gambit for a fight..

well

F*ck you and the mx5 / pseudo scooby you purport to own !!

i hope all your investments turn to ****, and billy screws you rotten!!


BAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH im pete the BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH sheeeep

troll go sip cyanide


M
Not a little upset are we??? Heres a hanky - wipe your tears little boy!

Pete
Old 06 May 2005, 10:42 PM
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The law sates you should not exceed X MPH on a set road, if you exceed this you are breaking the law, and if my understanding of criminal is correct? It is someone who breaks the law?
I have no fear in saying this....the law is wrong on this issue! I'll argue that for the next 50 pages if you want

But just to nip it in the bud the motorway speed limit of 70mph was imposed (followng a high speed cobra run curiously) at a time when cars took about 5 miles to stop from 70mph. Your modern transit van with over-weight pie eating, disfigured and retarded driver can probably still pull up from 70mph quicker than a 70s sports car Speed doesn't kill, it just makes things worse. Moron drivers kill!
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The speed limits may be wrong in places like the motorway - but, they are there - they are the law - they are to be adhered to or you will get a fine and points.

Would you STILL steal from a shop if you KNEW there were cameras trained on you??

NO??

Well, why do it on the roads?? - Can't understand it myself??

Pete
Old 06 May 2005, 10:48 PM
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And for information:-

""The 70 mph National Speed Limit was introduced as a temporary measure in December 1965. It is often blamed on Barbara Castle, but at the time the Minister of Transport was Tom Fraser.

The reason given was a spate of serious accidents in foggy conditions, but it is often claimed that the MoT had been alarmed by AC Cars testing their latest Cobra on the M1 at speeds up to 180 mph.

It was confirmed as a permanent limit in 1967, by which time Barbara Castle (a non-driver) had become Minister of Transport.There was surprisingly little debate at the time: the fact that the average family car of the time could only just exceed 70 mph perhaps had something to do with this.

It should be noted that this limit applied to all previously "derestricted" roads, not only motorways.

All rural roads in the Isle of Man (including most of the famous TT course) remain genuinely derestricted, as a matter of interest""

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Old 06 May 2005, 10:53 PM
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Eh?
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The speed limits may be wrong in places like the motorway - but, they are there - they are the law - they are to be adhered to or you will get a fine and points.
If the laws are ludicrous and petty, and the limits are set wrong then people won't respect them. That is why people speed.

If they passed a law that said people of 70+ couldn't misbehave on the internet or drive convertibles would you let it pass without comment?
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Eh?
Can't keep up UncleButt??

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Old 06 May 2005, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
If the laws are ludicrous and petty, and the limits are set wrong then people won't respect them. That is why people speed.

If they passed a law that said people of 70+ couldn't misbehave on the internet or drive convertibles would you let it pass without comment?
I would protest that the limits were wrong ..... I could not, and would not, protest that I shouldn't - if caught - be dealt with according to the law!

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Old 06 May 2005, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
If the laws are ludicrous and petty, and the limits are set wrong then people won't respect them. That is why people speed.
Why should honest hard working people respect oppression?
Old 06 May 2005, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I would protest that the limits were wrong ..... I could not, and would not, protest that I shouldn't - if caught - be dealt with according to the law!

Pete
But doesn't it follow that if the limits were correct then you wouldn't be caught? Hence complaining you are caught is valid.

Also, would you respect a law against 70+ misbehaving on the internet, or would you deem it so ludicrous you would just carry on anyway? You would carry on anyway, and you know it!
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I drive like a nutter now, and I ride my bike like I stole it. Might as well enjoy it before ISA and GPS based monitoring is introduced.

12 points? Bring it on!!

UB
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PSL, you do leave yourself wide open.

All this from a man who was telling us he was driving at 90 MPH the other day.

Hypocrites, like liars, should have good memories!

Les

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Originally Posted by Leslie
who was telling us he was driving at 90 MPH the other day.
I didn't get caught, ********!!

I travel at a speed higher than 70MPH on the Motorway, generally.

But I cannot say that if I got caught it is wrong ...... its quite right!!

Pete
Old 09 May 2005, 12:49 PM
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As I said before, as soon as he gets caught out, or loses the argument, he resorts to crude insults!

Very childish.

Les
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
lol at winging about the police, catching people who break the speed limit
Just becasue a speed limit is listed as law doesnt make it right. Its about time this fecking country sorted itself out. Doing 90mph on an empty motorway at 2am does not cause any problems whatsoever - about time we had variable speed limits based on volume/time.

This place will just go to the dogs now. I came back from Manchester airport last night and had a copper in an Astra follow us round for 10 minutes. I dont mind that, it was late Sunday night, 5 lads in a car. But he just followed us for miles on a funny route then buggered off, why not just pull us over?

The speed limits need reviewing, but they generate too much revenue with the cameras so they will never do it. Such a shame that we dont have a gov't that is clever enough to generate revenue legitimately rather than targetting hard working citizens.

And for pissy lewis, I dont speed, have never been done by scameras, and have a clean license, but that doesnt change my mind on the issue.


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