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06 May 2005, 05:02 PM
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06 May 2005, 08:31 PM
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Ha Ha - just been working with a Lead Fireman over the last 2 days.
He said that the strike did a HUGE amount of damage - it got everyone looking at their 1947 working practises!!
YES, 1947!!! While the world moved on, the Fire Service milked the **** off the council tax payers .................
About time we tried to get value for money from the biggest bunch of scroungers this side of a Chav Council Estate
The fireman I was with was a realist, he had 2 'other' jobs!! - he said he has seen ONE fire in 10 years!!!!!
And TWO accidents have been attended, nothing bad (he said if it was bad they would all go off sick afterwards!!)
He was brilliant!
Pete
He said that the strike did a HUGE amount of damage - it got everyone looking at their 1947 working practises!!
YES, 1947!!! While the world moved on, the Fire Service milked the **** off the council tax payers .................
About time we tried to get value for money from the biggest bunch of scroungers this side of a Chav Council Estate
The fireman I was with was a realist, he had 2 'other' jobs!! - he said he has seen ONE fire in 10 years!!!!!
And TWO accidents have been attended, nothing bad (he said if it was bad they would all go off sick afterwards!!)
He was brilliant!
Pete
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07 May 2005, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Pete, hes probably been off sick with a bad back for for 9 years 360 days 
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07 May 2005, 12:13 PM
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Looks like the Fire Brigade's about to start of down the slippery slope to 'modernisation' then
That means if you're middle class, and employed, you'll be straight onto the three week waiting list for having your house fire extinguished coz everyone is at the scrounging illegal immigrants house rescuing their flea ridden cat
We now have a modernised Police 'service', Healthcare system, Education system, and ambulance service. Do we really want to see half the firefighters on the ground laid off, in order to afford the extra five tiers of mannagement that always seem to be required during modernisation programs
That means if you're middle class, and employed, you'll be straight onto the three week waiting list for having your house fire extinguished coz everyone is at the scrounging illegal immigrants house rescuing their flea ridden catWe now have a modernised Police 'service', Healthcare system, Education system, and ambulance service. Do we really want to see half the firefighters on the ground laid off, in order to afford the extra five tiers of mannagement that always seem to be required during modernisation programs
07 May 2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wide
hmmmm like you know so much about it plank 
Like I said ...... I get it straight from the fishes mouth!!
Firemen are NOT worked hard, its VERY unusual for them to actually see a fire - or car wreck for that matter!!
The Fireman I know say that the station are always out fitting grannies their smoke alarms!!
And quite why they think they are worth £30k a year beggars belief
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07 May 2005, 07:03 PM
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Obviously you know , or think you know, because you heard one mouth that you have met. Please dont generalise eveybody just because you have talked to 1 bloke. By the sound of it where you live must be a quiet area if he has not had any calls. doesnt mean the whole of the country is like this. I am a LFF and at the mo temporary sub o. My watch does a fair days work and always has irrespective of whether or not we have attended fire calls or rtas.
And besides dont just have a pop at firefighters, lets look at the whole british workforce . I see plenty of different working environments with cushty life styles, like sitting in front of computor all day, or building sites that spend most of the day wolf whistling chicks .Hmmm I feel there is always so much negativety from people who know very little although I know very little of you I presume you are one of those very people
And besides dont just have a pop at firefighters, lets look at the whole british workforce . I see plenty of different working environments with cushty life styles, like sitting in front of computor all day, or building sites that spend most of the day wolf whistling chicks .Hmmm I feel there is always so much negativety from people who know very little although I know very little of you I presume you are one of those very people
07 May 2005, 08:32 PM
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Wide ..... we are talking the Firefighters here, there are plenty of 'easy' jobs, but its the Firefighters that made a 'song and dance' about their pay for a part-time job!!
They brought it upon themselves!! They should have kept their big gobs shut!!
You MUST agree its a **** easy job for big money!?? Surely to god!
Pete
They brought it upon themselves!! They should have kept their big gobs shut!!
You MUST agree its a **** easy job for big money!?? Surely to god!
Pete
07 May 2005, 09:35 PM
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I did however go to a local school fete.
Must have been interesting for you to hear what it sounds like!!
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09 May 2005, 10:29 AM
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I'd luv to know how they are able to sleep on their night shifts...????
Why not do fire checks at factories, schools etc while they are empty.
Why do they neef to travell everywhere on blues and twos?
Why decide to top the fire engines water, using a fire hydrant outside a busy night club at 2.00am in the morning - can't they go to a quite estate at this time.
Attended a fire once, and called the fire brigade. They turned up and opened all the compartments of the engine. One had all different types of hose attachments, one had different tools etc and one had a tea & coffee machine....?????? WTF.
Can any of you fire fighters on here justify your £30,000 pay rise request..
Why not do fire checks at factories, schools etc while they are empty.
Why do they neef to travell everywhere on blues and twos?
Why decide to top the fire engines water, using a fire hydrant outside a busy night club at 2.00am in the morning - can't they go to a quite estate at this time.
Attended a fire once, and called the fire brigade. They turned up and opened all the compartments of the engine. One had all different types of hose attachments, one had different tools etc and one had a tea & coffee machine....?????? WTF.
Can any of you fire fighters on here justify your £30,000 pay rise request..
09 May 2005, 10:41 AM
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I think they should be done with a give them the £30k a year to be in line with other professionals.....but to be in line with the other professionals take their pension off em and let them set up their own private schemes. See how quick they are to take it up then.
09 May 2005, 10:47 AM
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I think they should be done with a give them the £30k a year to be in line with other professionals......
09 May 2005, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
He was taking every training course he could get himself onto!!
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09 May 2005, 12:21 PM
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First it was the teachers, now it is the firemen he is denigrating!
I seem to remember PSL saying that he couldn't understand how anyone could exist on a significantly greater wage than the firemen get too. That was when he was trying to impress us all how rich he is doing the part time job he tells us about.
Time you got some consistency in your ramblings old chap!
Les
I seem to remember PSL saying that he couldn't understand how anyone could exist on a significantly greater wage than the firemen get too. That was when he was trying to impress us all how rich he is doing the part time job he tells us about.
Time you got some consistency in your ramblings old chap!
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10 May 2005, 12:50 AM
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I'd luv to know how they are able to sleep on their night shifts...????
Why not do fire checks at factories, schools etc while they are empty.
Why do they neef to travell everywhere on blues and twos?
Why decide to top the fire engines water, using a fire hydrant outside a busy night club at 2.00am in the morning - can't they go to a quite estate at this time.
Attended a fire once, and called the fire brigade. They turned up and opened all the compartments of the engine. One had all different types of hose attachments, one had different tools etc and one had a tea & coffee machine....?????? WTF.
10 May 2005, 09:06 AM
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[Quote=Daz 34]
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Attended a fire once, and called the fire brigade. They turned up and opened all the compartments of the engine. One had all different types of hose attachments, one had different tools etc and one had a tea & coffee machine....?????? WTF.
Our brigade doesn't have these but some do. How long do you go at work before getting thirsty & need a brew? You can be stuck at an incident for hours sometimes & it might have happened just before you were due a break or interrupted your break or due to go home. Dehydration is obviously a big problem when you wear fire kit.
[Quote=Daz34]
Not very clever drinking tea and coffee when your dehydrated is it
You might end up being off on the sick due to exhaustion for weeks on end on full pay.
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Attended a fire once, and called the fire brigade. They turned up and opened all the compartments of the engine. One had all different types of hose attachments, one had different tools etc and one had a tea & coffee machine....?????? WTF.
Our brigade doesn't have these but some do. How long do you go at work before getting thirsty & need a brew? You can be stuck at an incident for hours sometimes & it might have happened just before you were due a break or interrupted your break or due to go home. Dehydration is obviously a big problem when you wear fire kit.
[Quote=Daz34]
Not very clever drinking tea and coffee when your dehydrated is it
You might end up being off on the sick due to exhaustion for weeks on end on full pay.
10 May 2005, 09:53 AM
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Its the law??? Police work 12-14 hour shifts and we can't sleep on duty.
Most factories and schools have 24 hour security, who know all the fire exits and alarms etc. They are always there when intruder alarms trip through the night and we can check the entire building, so why can't the fire brigade.
There must be a more quieter place to fill up the engine. Trading estates etc. Most main roads are quiet at that time of night - but not the ones in the town centres.
I often go a 12 hour shift with no meal or any other kind of break. It gets hot in our body armour as well and you can be stuck on a crime scene for hours - just stood melting.
So can you justify your £30,000 pay request?
Its the law??? Police work 12-14 hour shifts and we can't sleep on duty.
Most factories and schools have 24 hour security, who know all the fire exits and alarms etc. They are always there when intruder alarms trip through the night and we can check the entire building, so why can't the fire brigade.
There must be a more quieter place to fill up the engine. Trading estates etc. Most main roads are quiet at that time of night - but not the ones in the town centres.
I often go a 12 hour shift with no meal or any other kind of break. It gets hot in our body armour as well and you can be stuck on a crime scene for hours - just stood melting.
So can you justify your £30,000 pay request?
10 May 2005, 10:02 AM
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Doesen't matter if it can be justified or not. It has been settled sp give it a rest.
You want to see your gaffers if you are working those hours without meals or breaks. They are taking the **** out of you !
You want to see your gaffers if you are working those hours without meals or breaks. They are taking the **** out of you !
10 May 2005, 10:10 AM
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Doesen't matter if it can be justified or not. It has been settled sp give it a rest.
You want to see your gaffers if you are working those hours without meals or breaks. They are taking the **** out of you !
You want to see your gaffers if you are working those hours without meals or breaks. They are taking the **** out of you !