Fuzz

Google and various bodybuilding forums seem to want me to purchase some geezers book before they tell me what's good to eat and what's not.

So has anyone got a list or some sort of spreadsheet that puts food into various categories (Protein, Carbs, etc) and what should be nearer the top of the list (better to eat than another) in the same group?

Basically I want to give something to her indoors to help get the message across I want more protein in the diet (along with overall healthy diet in general) as I'm trying to build myself up a bit more. It seems to go in one ear and out the other, waiting for me tonight was gammon and chips.
Short of cooking it myself seems to be the only way, but when it's ready when I get home... You just cant argue with em, if you know what I mean..

Andy

Tiggs

its not gonna happen!

if you want to re-think your diet and use it to assist with muscle growth then forget what is waiting for you when you get home.

you need to be eating regular meals during the day (5+) all with a good protein in them......that means preperation and commitment. Telling your wife that you want tuna more often wont cut it. You need to be sorting it yourslef....shes not on the health kick so why is she going to preping your meals!

as for getting a list of someone........get one yourself- in a good sense. just hearing that brown rice is better than white or chicken is better than ham isnt enough....you need to put in some effort and learn whats what......the only way to do that is sit and read....so get a good book on the subject!

T

Fuzz

I do breakfast and luunch and she does tea, and I do try to stick to the healthy stuff but as you say just hearing that brown rice is better than white or chicken is better than ham isnt enough.... Hence the reason I am asking on here after searching google and forums dedicated to the subject. I know there are a fair few healthly eating bodybuilders on here and thought it the next best step.
I am prepared to sit and read, I just dont like the idea of reading one blokes take on things (out of a book) and added to the insult of having to pay for it.


Andy

Fuzz

and yes I know I should be in bed by now.

The Chief

We need Milo on this subject! the guys a frigging walking library.

If you cant do 5 meals a day get your self a good quality whey protein and consume a couple of these a day.
try the whey consortium you can get a great big tub for like £40

super_si

you need to know what you want to achieve!

bulk, cut, lean too many variations of how you a "diet"

i tend to avoid anything manufactured+sugar

si

Tiggs

thats life...if you know nothing and the other bloke knows something......you have to pay to learn what he knows!

all you will get here is a variation between "i have whey for breakfast, that'll do it" and "i count every carb gram that enters my mouth and if it wasnt growing, flying or swimming 10 mins ago i wont eat it"

as si says.......you need a clear target/goal otherwise you will miss the thing you arent even aiming for!

The Chief

A lot of it is down to genetics as well.

If you are prone to putting weight on then guzzling 4 protein shakes a day might make your arms 18 inches (like mine) but what is the point when you have a big gut that hangs over your trousers (like mine also ahem)

However if you are naturally slim or muscular you could probably get away with eating loads. Just cut out the crap and processed food and definetly no microwaved crap no matter how much protein it has in it.

If you are skinny have a shake just before bedtime.

If you train naturally (i.e. no gear) then going to the gym 5 times a week is not beneficial 2-3 times a week at the most and concentrate on low reps high weight and not all this 'bicep concentration curl crap' stick with the basics bench, squat, deadlift, milatary presses etc.

Anyway i'll shut the f*** up now 'cos what do i know i've got the great genetics of maradonna!!

Come on Milo where are ya buddy!

One of my favorites is skinless turkey breast done under the grill tons of broccholi and a baked tatty!

julian N/W wrx my93

big steaks..........................

super_si

why not do your own research instead of being spoon fed......

whats the difference now...........

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk

Si

mo,s scoobymonster

if you want to build up muscle you need plenty of clean protein and clean carbs. forget tuna its crap eats grilled chicken , grilled turkey, grilled sammon. eggs. get a george foreman grill. also for carbs brown rice and plenty of lentils and kidney peas etc

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Fuzz

At a Gnats **** under 6 ft tall and only 11 stone 12 lb I could do with a bit of "meat" around me.
I assume I have a high metabolism as I can eat what I like and lots of it.

Intake by my own hands this Today was,
Bowl of Fruitful (minature shreaded wheat with dried fruit) semi skim milk.
Cup o Char

2 chicken drum sticks
2 scrambled egg and bacon sandwiches (4 triangles )
1 Banana
1 Probiotic healthy living yoghurt
another cup o Char.

also throughout the day 1 litre of weak Ribena (takes the plainness off of water)

I get home to
Brown rice (good start )
Uncle bens sweet and sour sauce over chopped sausages and chicken pieces.
strawberry and rasberry pie in a bowl brimmed with custard.

Si,
That was one of the sites I had a look at and could only see "sales pitches for the books they offered"
The differeance now Is I can take the advise (or leave it) of the community as a whole, if one person were to post tripe then I would expect it to be debated /reasoned.
I fear that the replies I would recieve by posting purely on bodybuiilding forums would be to the more extreme end of the scale of what I want to achieve.


Andy

super_si

why would it?

Not everyone wants to be huge

S

Fuzz

I think the majority of posters on those forums are the ones who live their life in the gym, hence I belive the advise I would recieve would be "strickter" than I would require!


Andy

super_si

her in doors ya mam still

Fuzz

Yup, Cheap living.

scoobynutta555

Im in no way a muscle guru. However with my modest exercise regime and what I am eating, i have found more muscle mass and have lost a stone in four weeks.

I have cut booze to an absolute minimum. IMHO this is essential. I eat skinless chicken, salmon, tuna, roast beef slices, poached eggs. Normally I have modest portions of one or the other about 4 times a day. The above items should be high in protein but low in carbs. Try fitting in some fibre or youll have to suffer some rock solid protein dumps I drink lots of water, tea and have a can of that vegetable drink v8.

I have not used the old York weights i used to have but instead do 3 sets of 40 varied stance press ups and 3 sets of as many chin ups as i can do per sesh, 3 times a week. It scratches on the surface I suppose on what you need to do to beef up, but Im happy doing only this amount.

I might start doing some light cv work to try and burn some belly off.

Experts such as Milo will give you more comprehensive advice. The stuff i do is by no means perfect, but it works for me.

IWatkins

Bakewell Tart will not do it Fuzz

Fuzz

That was my sugar intake for the day.




Andy

super_si

Even on gear im down to getting hammered once a week has not detremental affect on my training.

Quite the opposite i PB every single sunday morning on 4 hours sleep 4 eph and red bull + porridge LOL