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Time for the death penalty - referendum time?
21 March 2005, 01:27 PM
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Time for the death penalty - referendum time?
Isn't it time the Government did what the public wanted for once as they are supposed to represent the people of Britain?
How many people think its a good idea for the death penalty to be imposed on murderers/rapists and paedophiles where there is firm proof/admission that they committed the crime?
How many people think its a good idea for the death penalty to be imposed on murderers/rapists and paedophiles where there is firm proof/admission that they committed the crime?
21 March 2005, 01:47 PM
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Have to say that i agree with the death penalty, whats the point in locking up someone just to let them die anyway?
and anyone who says what happens if you put an inocent person to death? Well i don't think there is any doubt that at some point an inocent person would be put to death, its something that i don't think could be avoided. but having said that police and science have come a long long way in developing methods of criminal detection, the old method of if they sink and drown in a river they can't be a witch is a thing of the past.
and anyone who says what happens if you put an inocent person to death? Well i don't think there is any doubt that at some point an inocent person would be put to death, its something that i don't think could be avoided. but having said that police and science have come a long long way in developing methods of criminal detection, the old method of if they sink and drown in a river they can't be a witch is a thing of the past.
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21 March 2005, 01:56 PM
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We could set them free and let the fox hunting brigade deal with them (now they can't hunt foxes, they can hunt chavs instead) 
Given enough planning and resources, it is possible to frame somebody so that it appears as though are guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. How do you correct mistakes when the person involved is no longer around?
Given enough planning and resources, it is possible to frame somebody so that it appears as though are guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. How do you correct mistakes when the person involved is no longer around?
21 March 2005, 02:05 PM
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looking at recent English history will show many cases of mistakes made.
An innocent persons life is worth more than all the criminals you would have killed, put together.
An innocent persons life is worth more than all the criminals you would have killed, put together.
21 March 2005, 02:05 PM
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Agree with what Iain says. What about those poor women that were banged up for murdering their kids only for it to emerge the "expert" witness was completely wrong!
However, I do feel having the death penalty available as the ultimate punishment it could work very well as a deterent.
However, I do feel having the death penalty available as the ultimate punishment it could work very well as a deterent.
21 March 2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
However, I do feel having the death penalty available as the ultimate punishment it could work very well as a deterent.
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21 March 2005, 02:10 PM
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Agree with what Iain says. What about those poor women that were banged up for murdering their kids only for it to emerge the "expert" witness was completely wrong!
However, I do feel having the death penalty available as the ultimate punishment it could work very well as a deterent.
However, I do feel having the death penalty available as the ultimate punishment it could work very well as a deterent.
21 March 2005, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
I am suggesting the death penalty for those who have admitted to their crimes and where such crimes are in no doubt as to who did them, such as the 4 who just got done for the shootings of the 2 girls, such as the lotto rapist. there is no doubt these defendants did these crimes, they don't even deny it. You can't make a mistake in these cases!
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21 March 2005, 02:15 PM
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There is always room for error.
How do you know that they were not forced to make confessions by other gang members threatening their families etc. It's happened before...
How do you know that they were not forced to make confessions by other gang members threatening their families etc. It's happened before...
21 March 2005, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Why ?
Maybe people who disagree don't trust the police to get it right !
Maybe people who disagree don't trust the police to get it right !
21 March 2005, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
In fact - Kiddie fiddlers should have their ***** cut off and left to bleed to death
21 March 2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
I am suggesting the death penalty for those who have admitted to their crimes and where such crimes are in no doubt as to who did them, such as the 4 who just got done for the shootings of the 2 girls, .... there is no doubt these defendants did these crimes, they don't even deny it. You can't make a mistake in these cases!
We also have a basic problem in the UK / US in the adversarial system, there is no independent examiner who looks at all the facts and decides if they're guilty or not. The prosecution are (almost) not allowed / not expected to back down and say "Oops, we might be wrong here".
I think I'd agree with the death penalty for those who are proven beyond reasonable doubt - but I fear that's a utopian ideal given the human involvement and the political and media pressure. (Certainly not impressed about spending £25k a year for 30 years' prison.)
21 March 2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Anyone who disagrees is a homosexual/paedophile 
irrespective of the intention of the poster that is one of the best posts i have ever seen....just sums up so much so simply!
21 March 2005, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
irrespective of the intention of the poster that is one of the best posts i have ever seen....just sums up so much so simply!
This is just a joke - please don't take offence - couldn't resist
21 March 2005, 02:52 PM
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Where the evidence is overwhelming, i.e DNA testing etc, kill them. In the states theyve got death row, and most people would appear to be on that for ages before they are executed, therefore giving the criminal or innocent, reasonable time to appeal and have their case re-heard.
Afraid that there are too many goody two shoes, do-gooding liberal w@nker$ in the UK and the death sentance would never be re-introduced.
Afraid that there are too many goody two shoes, do-gooding liberal w@nker$ in the UK and the death sentance would never be re-introduced.
21 March 2005, 04:03 PM
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Who was it that said that you can tell a lot about the state of a scoiety by the way it treats its outcasts?
Aside from debates about the death penalty's value as a deterrant or the implications if a mistake is made etc... I look at it this way: the legal system is supposed to be an agent of society- its supposed to act on our behalf: I don't want people being exectued on my behalf. It's that simple.
Please, no daft replies about denegrating the seriousness of crimes such as Murder etc.. or being soft on offenders etc... I have no problem with life imprisonment and I would like to see longer terms for certain crimes.
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Aside from debates about the death penalty's value as a deterrant or the implications if a mistake is made etc... I look at it this way: the legal system is supposed to be an agent of society- its supposed to act on our behalf: I don't want people being exectued on my behalf. It's that simple.
Please, no daft replies about denegrating the seriousness of crimes such as Murder etc.. or being soft on offenders etc... I have no problem with life imprisonment and I would like to see longer terms for certain crimes.
Regards,
NS04
21 March 2005, 04:15 PM
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Read the thread please, its about the death penalty in cases where there is evidence beyond all reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime.
But I understand your point. And BTW, if you hang rapists then you have just condemmed most rape victims to death: by making the penalty for murder and rape the same the perp is better off killing the victim to stop her testifying.
And just to put it in a nutshell: the state says killing is wrong, and to prove it, it's going to kill you. Notice any logical problem there?
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