pslewis

"A bill which would ban hunting with hounds in England and Wales has become the first such proposal to get a second reading in parliament.

The private member's bill, introduced by Labour MP John McFall, would outlaw fox and stag-hunting and hare-coursing.

There was cheering in the House of Commons chamber and the public gallery as it was passed by 253 votes to nil after its first reading"

253 to NIL!!!

And STILL the Hooray Henrys compalin!! Arrest them ALL and give them to Big Billy in the Prison showers, mind you, if they are Tories they might just enjoy that tooooo much!!

So, under a TORY Government a Labour MP FORCED a vote on the banning of the torture of wild animals ............................... must have made them cringe!

Pete

ajm

1) Still hunting
2) Still voting Conservative

pslewis

1) I KNEW you would want Big Billy to visit you in the showers!!

2) Someones HAS to!

Pete

Gordo

Another Tory here

Bless you Pete for causing soooo many to switch to the Tories, for fear of becoming like you, the average slavering New Labour old fool.

hee hee

Gordo

ajm

5 months and 2 days ago.....

Tony Blair cheated us by surviving his catheter ablation heart operation!

pslewis

Thats NOT funny!!

Pete

ajm

Yes it is! ha ha ha!

Gordo

He only cheated us because he had it done immediately! If he'd stuck to his socialist beliefs he'd have waited 18 months like every other hapless punter at the gates of the NHS.

unclebuck

shut yer gob, there's a good fellow.

pslewis

Heres UncleBuck ......... he loves me so much he even has me listed in his location

A bit sad, but ever soooooo sweet!

Pete

Chip

1) Get out into the country Lewis. People are still hunting.
2) Labour bulldozed the Bill through using the Parliament act as they couldnt get it through in a democratic way.
3) Are farmhands and the rural community really Hooray henrys then?
4) Yes there was a vote undere the Tory government. Its called democracy Peter.

And just admit the real reason they wanted it banned was they thought it was only the well off that went hunting. Well they have been proven wrong havent they.

Chip

Leslie

They always stick to the same old inverted snobbery Chip, even if you show it to be totally misplaced, its the only argument they have got, so in tyipical NL manner they just keep saying it in case someone might believe it!

PSL,

What will you say when your hero bans fishing?

Les

pslewis

He cannot do that, only a democratic vote in the Commons can do that - the support for such a step would not be there ....... so ...... as usual ..... you are talking complete and utter bollox

Pete

ajm

Actually he CAN do that. Half the country was against the fox hunting ban, hardly overwhelming "support".

All he needs to do is get all the Labour MP's to toe the line and they can ban anything they like! It bears no relevence to public support.

Chip

Pete,

Tell me, why didnt your leader cast his vote on the fox hunting bill. Sat on the fence treying to be all things to all men as usual.

Chip

Iain Young

Out of interest, how do you know that? Nobody I know (myself included) has ever been asked their opinion on the subject by any polls, and so any statistics stated on the subject cannot be said to represent he population.

All you can say is that half of the people who were actually questioned for that particular poll were against it. Makes me laugh when I see people stating these figures as fact when in fact they are highly subjective (and that's from both side of the arguement).

The only way you can get the true picture of how the country as a whole feels would be to have a referendum on the subject, with a mandatory voting policy.

ajm

I agree totally.

To answer your question I took the anti's claims and the pro's claims and cut it down the middle, added some salt, shook, stirred and and said "half", that way I can't be accused of being biased!

pslewis

Hmmmmmmmmm sounds about right

Pete

ajm

Don't worry Pete, when it's banned you are welcome to come fishing with me.... I will continue regardless, as you know!

Jye

Ooow.... lewis throwing the gauntlet at ajm now

ajm

He's getting tetchy because I drove him into such a fiz that he had thrown his first insult at me by 09:30 this morning!

Jye

Yes, he really seems to be losing his already tenuous grip of reality these days

pslewis

I have had a spare week this week and thought I would show my immense IQ off on SN!

I have been quite effective too!

Pete

unclebuck

That's right. They can indeed ban anything they like, and they will. After all, they can start illegal wars and ban ceturies old traditions without any conscience at all.

Fishing could well be next in line as could motorsport, off road sport, and home mechanics (such as restorations or maintenence of your car).

Don't say you weren't warned, and don't come bleeting on here when your your interests and freedoms are banned.

popeye

Common criminals. Lock 'em up, all of them. Let's hope they all drop the soap in the showers and their 4x4's get reposessed. Come back chavs, all is forgiven.

Spot on. Very astute of you. An elected government voted overwhelmingly for it f*ck knows how many times. An un-elected body of people serving their own self interests prevented it from becoming law. Eventually, the elected government quite rightly got their way, as is supposed to happen in a democracy. Just a shame they had to use the Parliament act.


Great stuff. Somebody that has absolutley no idea what democracy is posting that.


Well let's just ignore every debate on the internet and in the media, where people state time and time again that they want hunting banned because they find it disgusting that there are still some idiots whose idea of a social life is killing animals for fun. Nope, it's all because well off people do it. Lol! "Listen to us!".

scoobydooooo

ajm

Shouldn't you be in bed by now popeye?

pslewis

Popeye talks sense!!!

Pete

Jye

He still thinks you're a w@nk though

pslewis

I don't care what people think of me ..... as long as they talk sense!!

Pete