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New Labour - Racsist Scum
As new labour become more and more dictatorial we see fresh evidence that aligns them to the more extreme politics of the past – anti Semitic propaganda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4223091.stm
For the party of the politically correct it seems a strange move to play the race card until you realise that in their desperation to cling to power they are prepared to sink to any depths to try and discredit the opposition.
Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4223091.stm
For the party of the politically correct it seems a strange move to play the race card until you realise that in their desperation to cling to power they are prepared to sink to any depths to try and discredit the opposition.
Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming.
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Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming
Prezza's new motor? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...524184533&rd=1 £200 and reserve not met
01 February 2005, 11:23 AM
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can we please take a deep breath and return to the real world!!!!!!! you can interpret any picture in anyway if you try so drop it, its a picture of a man holding a pocket watch!!!!!!! what the hell is racist about that????????????????????????????????
01 February 2005, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
As new labour become more and more dictatorial we see fresh evidence that aligns them to the more extreme politics of the past – anti Semitic propaganda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4223091.stm
For the party of the politically correct it seems a strange move to play the race card until you realise that in their desperation to cling to power they are prepared to sink to any depths to try and discredit the opposition.
Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4223091.stm
For the party of the politically correct it seems a strange move to play the race card until you realise that in their desperation to cling to power they are prepared to sink to any depths to try and discredit the opposition.
Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
As new labour become more and more dictatorial we see fresh evidence that aligns them to the more extreme politics of the past – anti Semitic propaganda.
01 February 2005, 11:27 AM
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the picture shows him as a hypnotist...not a jew.
if anyone thinks the purpose of the add is to show that MH is Jewish and should therefore not be voted for because Jews are bad........is in need of treatment.....they have retardyitus.
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if anyone thinks the purpose of the add is to show that MH is Jewish and should therefore not be voted for because Jews are bad........is in need of treatment.....they have retardyitus.
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depressing isn't it buck.
were the boot on the other foot, you just know labour would be screaming hysterically about tory "fascism" and "**** tendency." as oscar wilde wrote, once is unfortunate; twice might seem like carelessness.
this makes it four separate times now that labour has made devious and snide references to howard being jewish: socialists never change their spots: always have been anti-semitic, always will be. and this right on the tail of the auschwitz ceremony last week. simply stunning hypocrisy. simply stunning stupidity.
so well done howard for treating this with the dignified dismissal it deserves. and well done also the (very few) labour backbenchers who've publicly criticised this for what it is: clever, anti-semitic propoganda.
it's so predictable to see "kamerad" blair doing his best pontius pilate impersonation and running for cover while some faceless patsy bumbles through excuses that never quite manage to translate into apology.
what do you think pslewis? as a slavishly proud devotee of new labour, what next? a kristallnacht by party activists perhaps? (hey, might woo some BNP supporters in time for may) or maybe a fullsome apology, the sacking of the perpetrators and their deserved expulsion from your shoddy, cheap and cowardly party?
yours in disgust,
hg
were the boot on the other foot, you just know labour would be screaming hysterically about tory "fascism" and "**** tendency." as oscar wilde wrote, once is unfortunate; twice might seem like carelessness.
this makes it four separate times now that labour has made devious and snide references to howard being jewish: socialists never change their spots: always have been anti-semitic, always will be. and this right on the tail of the auschwitz ceremony last week. simply stunning hypocrisy. simply stunning stupidity.
so well done howard for treating this with the dignified dismissal it deserves. and well done also the (very few) labour backbenchers who've publicly criticised this for what it is: clever, anti-semitic propoganda.
it's so predictable to see "kamerad" blair doing his best pontius pilate impersonation and running for cover while some faceless patsy bumbles through excuses that never quite manage to translate into apology.
what do you think pslewis? as a slavishly proud devotee of new labour, what next? a kristallnacht by party activists perhaps? (hey, might woo some BNP supporters in time for may) or maybe a fullsome apology, the sacking of the perpetrators and their deserved expulsion from your shoddy, cheap and cowardly party?
yours in disgust,
hg
01 February 2005, 11:38 AM
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i hate to be the one to point this out but this had nothing to do with race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it was all about the fact that what he was saying was a load of rubbish, you ever heard of a flying pig??????? mythical beast that people say they see when the are being sarcastic????????
and the referance to hypnosis?????? aka he's pulling the wool over your eyes and he cant deliver what he says.
now answer me this,,,,, what that hell is racist about that????????????????????
it was all about the fact that what he was saying was a load of rubbish, you ever heard of a flying pig??????? mythical beast that people say they see when the are being sarcastic????????
and the referance to hypnosis?????? aka he's pulling the wool over your eyes and he cant deliver what he says.
now answer me this,,,,, what that hell is racist about that????????????????????
01 February 2005, 11:42 AM
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How grown up of a political party to use a picture to try to win votes.
FFS, act like adults and get some proper policies...and follow them through if you want to win votes and stay in office. Dont act like kids in a play ground and squabble between yourselves.
Then they wonder why no one has faith in them?
FFS, act like adults and get some proper policies...and follow them through if you want to win votes and stay in office. Dont act like kids in a play ground and squabble between yourselves.
Then they wonder why no one has faith in them?
01 February 2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
now answer me this,,,,, what that hell is racist about that????????????????????
01 February 2005, 11:50 AM
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Do you have shares in punctuation marks?
Sorry;
Do you have shares in punctuation marks?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry;
Do you have shares in punctuation marks?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry, p's me off when people cry racism at every chance they get.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
As new labour become more and more dictatorial we see fresh evidence that aligns them to the more extreme politics of the past – anti Semitic propaganda.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4223091.stm
For the party of the politically correct it seems a strange move to play the race card until you realise that in their desperation to cling to power they are prepared to sink to any depths to try and discredit the opposition.
Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4223091.stm
For the party of the politically correct it seems a strange move to play the race card until you realise that in their desperation to cling to power they are prepared to sink to any depths to try and discredit the opposition.
Zieg Hiel – the Third Term is coming.
01 February 2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
depressing isn't it buck.
were the boot on the other foot, you just know labour would be screaming hysterically about tory "fascism" and "**** tendency." as oscar wilde wrote, once is unfortunate; twice might seem like carelessness.
this makes it four separate times now that labour has made devious and snide references to howard being jewish: socialists never change their spots: always have been anti-semitic, always will be. and this right on the tail of the auschwitz ceremony last week. simply stunning hypocrisy. simply stunning stupidity.
so well done howard for treating this with the dignified dismissal it deserves. and well done also the (very few) labour backbenchers who've publicly criticised this for what it is: clever, anti-semitic propoganda.
it's so predictable to see "kamerad" blair doing his best pontius pilate impersonation and running for cover while some faceless patsy bumbles through excuses that never quite manage to translate into apology.
what do you think pslewis? as a slavishly proud devotee of new labour, what next? a kristallnacht by party activists perhaps? (hey, might woo some BNP supporters in time for may) or maybe a fullsome apology, the sacking of the perpetrators and their deserved expulsion from your shoddy, cheap and cowardly party?
yours in disgust,
hg
were the boot on the other foot, you just know labour would be screaming hysterically about tory "fascism" and "**** tendency." as oscar wilde wrote, once is unfortunate; twice might seem like carelessness.
this makes it four separate times now that labour has made devious and snide references to howard being jewish: socialists never change their spots: always have been anti-semitic, always will be. and this right on the tail of the auschwitz ceremony last week. simply stunning hypocrisy. simply stunning stupidity.
so well done howard for treating this with the dignified dismissal it deserves. and well done also the (very few) labour backbenchers who've publicly criticised this for what it is: clever, anti-semitic propoganda.
it's so predictable to see "kamerad" blair doing his best pontius pilate impersonation and running for cover while some faceless patsy bumbles through excuses that never quite manage to translate into apology.
what do you think pslewis? as a slavishly proud devotee of new labour, what next? a kristallnacht by party activists perhaps? (hey, might woo some BNP supporters in time for may) or maybe a fullsome apology, the sacking of the perpetrators and their deserved expulsion from your shoddy, cheap and cowardly party?
yours in disgust,
hg
01 February 2005, 11:52 AM
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Look, we all realise you don't like the Labour party. And your disdain for Tony Blair (sorry, Tory B Liar) is well known.
But, stepping away from the complete non-event which this advertising campaign (doesn't) represent, have you ever had reason to think of the Labour party as racist? I could believe it more of the Tories, but even I (and I hate them with a passion) wouldn't accuse them of that.
If you truly, honestly, think that Labour/Blair are racists, then I think you need to either get medication, or stop taking the medication, because you're seeing things from an entirely different angle to the rest of the world.
Oh, and just to get the party politics in, wasn't it nice of the Tories to pick up this item as so-called news, label it racist, then stage a "dignified" Michael Howard response. No spin-doctoring there, was there?
Look, we all realise you don't like the Labour party. And your disdain for Tony Blair (sorry, Tory B Liar) is well known.
But, stepping away from the complete non-event which this advertising campaign (doesn't) represent, have you ever had reason to think of the Labour party as racist? I could believe it more of the Tories, but even I (and I hate them with a passion) wouldn't accuse them of that.
If you truly, honestly, think that Labour/Blair are racists, then I think you need to either get medication, or stop taking the medication, because you're seeing things from an entirely different angle to the rest of the world.
Oh, and just to get the party politics in, wasn't it nice of the Tories to pick up this item as so-called news, label it racist, then stage a "dignified" Michael Howard response. No spin-doctoring there, was there?
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
depressing isn't it buck.
were the boot on the other foot, you just know labour would be screaming hysterically about tory "fascism" and "**** tendency." as oscar wilde wrote, once is unfortunate; twice might seem like carelessness.
this makes it four separate times now that labour has made devious and snide references to howard being jewish: socialists never change their spots: always have been anti-semitic, always will be. and this right on the tail of the auschwitz ceremony last week. simply stunning hypocrisy. simply stunning stupidity.
so well done howard for treating this with the dignified dismissal it deserves. and well done also the (very few) labour backbenchers who've publicly criticised this for what it is: clever, anti-semitic propoganda.
it's so predictable to see "kamerad" blair doing his best pontius pilate impersonation and running for cover while some faceless patsy bumbles through excuses that never quite manage to translate into apology.
what do you think pslewis? as a slavishly proud devotee of new labour, what next? a kristallnacht by party activists perhaps? (hey, might woo some BNP supporters in time for may) or maybe a fullsome apology, the sacking of the perpetrators and their deserved expulsion from your shoddy, cheap and cowardly party?
yours in disgust,
hg
were the boot on the other foot, you just know labour would be screaming hysterically about tory "fascism" and "**** tendency." as oscar wilde wrote, once is unfortunate; twice might seem like carelessness.
this makes it four separate times now that labour has made devious and snide references to howard being jewish: socialists never change their spots: always have been anti-semitic, always will be. and this right on the tail of the auschwitz ceremony last week. simply stunning hypocrisy. simply stunning stupidity.
so well done howard for treating this with the dignified dismissal it deserves. and well done also the (very few) labour backbenchers who've publicly criticised this for what it is: clever, anti-semitic propoganda.
it's so predictable to see "kamerad" blair doing his best pontius pilate impersonation and running for cover while some faceless patsy bumbles through excuses that never quite manage to translate into apology.
what do you think pslewis? as a slavishly proud devotee of new labour, what next? a kristallnacht by party activists perhaps? (hey, might woo some BNP supporters in time for may) or maybe a fullsome apology, the sacking of the perpetrators and their deserved expulsion from your shoddy, cheap and cowardly party?
yours in disgust,
hg
Oscar Wilde Yawn Yawn . As if an opening paragraph like that offers credence, a bower of respectability to your following comments.
Hypocrisy and stupidity? a sweeping subjective view which you try and create objectivity with by suggesting...wait for it... Socialists never change their spots Brilliant. Well thats me heading for the polling booth in a blue jumpsuit then.
"kamerad" blair Ugh. what are you? A tabloid journalist? Haven't you got some work in the classifieds to complete? Kristallnacht? How nails-down-a-blackboard desperate are you to try and make a point when you don't have one? Go on do some more it's funny!
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
i hate to be the one to point this out but this had nothing to do with race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it was all about the fact that what he was saying was a load of rubbish, you ever heard of a flying pig??????? mythical beast that people say they see when the are being sarcastic????????
and the referance to hypnosis?????? aka he's pulling the wool over your eyes and he cant deliver what he says.
now answer me this,,,,, what that hell is racist about that????????????????????
it was all about the fact that what he was saying was a load of rubbish, you ever heard of a flying pig??????? mythical beast that people say they see when the are being sarcastic????????
and the referance to hypnosis?????? aka he's pulling the wool over your eyes and he cant deliver what he says.
now answer me this,,,,, what that hell is racist about that????????????????????
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well for a start it's insensitive to say the least to put the faces of two politicians known to to be jewish on the bodies of pigs. especially when the parents of one sought asylum here from the *****. how would you react if the tories ran a poster with the MP paul boateng's face on that of a chimp? not happily i suspect.
have you seen ron moody's fagin in the 1968 oliver twist film-musical: you might remember his precious pocket watch on a chain he's fond of twirling.
in fact, what about ian mccartney's description of oliver letwin as "fagin" last year?
or mike o'brien's reprehensible comments last month in a british muslim newspaper about how howard cannot be relied on to play with a straight bat when it comes to UK muslims and the israel/palestine question (implication: because he's jewish).
it's subtle use of almost subliminal imagery and verbal implication. goebbels would be proud of labour's deft touch. it mirrors his own of the early 1930s.
come on, stop being an apologist and open your eyes. this type of racial-religious smearing must stop right now. blair's the CEO of new labour and the current MD of the UK: it's his responsibility to deal with this instead of looking the other way. as he is prone to do unless it comes with a good photo-op.
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Originally Posted by andrewdelvard
Come of it.
Oscar Wilde Yawn Yawn . As if an opening paragraph like that offers credence, a bower of respectability to your following comments.
Hypocrisy and stupidity? a sweeping subjective view which you try and create objectivity with by suggesting...wait for it... Socialists never change their spots Brilliant. Well thats me heading for the polling booth in a blue jumpsuit then.
"kamerad" blair Ugh. what are you? A tabloid journalist? Haven't you got some work in the classifieds to complete? Kristallnacht? How nails-down-a-blackboard desperate are you to try and make a point when you don't have one? Go on do some more it's funny!
Oscar Wilde Yawn Yawn . As if an opening paragraph like that offers credence, a bower of respectability to your following comments.
Hypocrisy and stupidity? a sweeping subjective view which you try and create objectivity with by suggesting...wait for it... Socialists never change their spots Brilliant. Well thats me heading for the polling booth in a blue jumpsuit then.
"kamerad" blair Ugh. what are you? A tabloid journalist? Haven't you got some work in the classifieds to complete? Kristallnacht? How nails-down-a-blackboard desperate are you to try and make a point when you don't have one? Go on do some more it's funny!
i'm sorry quoting wilde would reveal you as a luddite with an inferiority complex bud.
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All this shows how little we trust any politician these days. Probably very good reason too after NL's employment of all those spin doctors and "burial" merchants. As well as the accusations of racism on the part of NL we now see Michael Howard's cool treatment of the NL attempts to undermine him cited as yet another example of spin!
I think he took the most sensible course in virtually ignoring it anyway.
Of course that picture of the pigs, and the one portraying the conservative leader as Shylock were meant as an underhand attack on the conservatives and also as a sop to the Arab nations. I doubt that there is an underlying feeling of genuine racism against the Jews on the part of NL, but that it was a deliberate attempt at political gain. It is fair to say that when it comes to maintaining or increasing their personal power, as far as NL is concerned, the end will certainly justify the means.
I think the episode of the doctored pictures is regretttable and I bet NL are already sorry that they took this course of action. They dropped themselves down to the level of the gutter with it.
It is already being mooted that NL are considering producing a similar policy towards immigration as the one that the conservatives have already published. They now know the country's feeling towards this and realise that they have to do a U turn in an attempt to maintain their standing, such as that is.
It will be interesting to see what other dirty tricks they can think up, Candy Appleton has set the scene by sending her agent out to dig as much dirt as possible on her opponent in the next election, even following him into bars at night etc.!
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I think he took the most sensible course in virtually ignoring it anyway.
Of course that picture of the pigs, and the one portraying the conservative leader as Shylock were meant as an underhand attack on the conservatives and also as a sop to the Arab nations. I doubt that there is an underlying feeling of genuine racism against the Jews on the part of NL, but that it was a deliberate attempt at political gain. It is fair to say that when it comes to maintaining or increasing their personal power, as far as NL is concerned, the end will certainly justify the means.
I think the episode of the doctored pictures is regretttable and I bet NL are already sorry that they took this course of action. They dropped themselves down to the level of the gutter with it.
It is already being mooted that NL are considering producing a similar policy towards immigration as the one that the conservatives have already published. They now know the country's feeling towards this and realise that they have to do a U turn in an attempt to maintain their standing, such as that is.
It will be interesting to see what other dirty tricks they can think up, Candy Appleton has set the scene by sending her agent out to dig as much dirt as possible on her opponent in the next election, even following him into bars at night etc.!
Les
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
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well for a start it's insensitive to say the least to put the faces of two politicians known to to be jewish on the bodies of pigs. especially when the parents of one sought asylum here from the *****. how would you react if the tories ran a poster with the MP paul boateng's face on that of a chimp? not happily i suspect.
have you seen ron moody's fagin in the 1968 oliver twist film-musical: you might remember his precious pocket watch on a chain he's fond of twirling.
in fact, what about ian mccartney's description of oliver letwin as "fagin" last year?
or mike o'brien's reprehensible comments last month in a british muslim newspaper about how howard cannot be relied on to play with a straight bat when it comes to UK muslims and the israel/palestine question (implication: because he's jewish).
it's subtle use of almost subliminal imagery and verbal implication. goebbels would be proud of labour's deft touch. it mirrors his own of the early 1930s.
come on, stop being an apologist and open your eyes. this type of racial-religious smearing must stop right now. blair's the CEO of new labour and the current MD of the UK: it's his responsibility to deal with this instead of looking the other way. as he is prone to do unless it comes with a good photo-op.
well for a start it's insensitive to say the least to put the faces of two politicians known to to be jewish on the bodies of pigs. especially when the parents of one sought asylum here from the *****. how would you react if the tories ran a poster with the MP paul boateng's face on that of a chimp? not happily i suspect.
have you seen ron moody's fagin in the 1968 oliver twist film-musical: you might remember his precious pocket watch on a chain he's fond of twirling.
in fact, what about ian mccartney's description of oliver letwin as "fagin" last year?
or mike o'brien's reprehensible comments last month in a british muslim newspaper about how howard cannot be relied on to play with a straight bat when it comes to UK muslims and the israel/palestine question (implication: because he's jewish).
it's subtle use of almost subliminal imagery and verbal implication. goebbels would be proud of labour's deft touch. it mirrors his own of the early 1930s.
come on, stop being an apologist and open your eyes. this type of racial-religious smearing must stop right now. blair's the CEO of new labour and the current MD of the UK: it's his responsibility to deal with this instead of looking the other way. as he is prone to do unless it comes with a good photo-op.
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Look, we all realise you don't like the Labour party. And your disdain for Tony Blair (sorry, Tory B Liar) is well known.
But, stepping away from the complete non-event which this advertising campaign (doesn't) represent, have you ever had reason to think of the Labour party as racist? I could believe it more of the Tories, but even I (and I hate them with a passion) wouldn't accuse them of that.
If you truly, honestly, think that Labour/Blair are racists, then I think you need to either get medication, or stop taking the medication, because you're seeing things from an entirely different angle to the rest of the world.
Oh, and just to get the party politics in, wasn't it nice of the Tories to pick up this item as so-called news, label it racist, then stage a "dignified" Michael Howard response. No spin-doctoring there, was there?
Look, we all realise you don't like the Labour party. And your disdain for Tony Blair (sorry, Tory B Liar) is well known.
But, stepping away from the complete non-event which this advertising campaign (doesn't) represent, have you ever had reason to think of the Labour party as racist? I could believe it more of the Tories, but even I (and I hate them with a passion) wouldn't accuse them of that.
If you truly, honestly, think that Labour/Blair are racists, then I think you need to either get medication, or stop taking the medication, because you're seeing things from an entirely different angle to the rest of the world.
Oh, and just to get the party politics in, wasn't it nice of the Tories to pick up this item as so-called news, label it racist, then stage a "dignified" Michael Howard response. No spin-doctoring there, was there?
i take your point: i don't like either. i'm not saying it's a racist party - it's no more and no less prejudiced than any other (BNP and sections of UKIP excepted). but we have four examples of individuals and sections of the labour party making questionable comments or using questionable images with neither explanation nor apology. it's clearly not scotch mist so why has it happened and why has it not been condemned at the highest level?
if blair had sat on this hard and disassociated his party, this would no longer be a story and it would not be just about to be the subject of debate on jeremy vine's show on radio2, a station that pulls in 14m listeners.
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On second thoughts, with that well-know anti-semite Peter Mandelson at the helm of the Labour spin-machine for so long, could be something in it....
No, on second thoughts, what a load of rubbish.
No, on second thoughts, what a load of rubbish.
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Originally Posted by the moose
When even the editor of the Jewish Chrinicle says he doesn't think there's anything racist in it, I think it's safe to assume you're being more than ordinarily sensitive.
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have you ever had reason to think of the Labour party as racist?
Many people see that as racially based discrimination (which it is) so, yes.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
erm... well there is the endless 'positive discrimination' they promote and practice.
Many people see that as racially based discrimination (which it is) so, yes.
Many people see that as racially based discrimination (which it is) so, yes.
Sorry, can't see Labour's positive discrimination in there. Can you?
Thought not.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
if blair had sat on this hard and disassociated his party, this would no longer be a story and it would not be just about to be the subject of debate on jeremy vine's show on radio2, a station that pulls in 14m listeners.
PS Eee, that Jeremy Vine. I remember going to see The Smiths with him in 1984 in Newcastle Mayfair. Them were the days etc etc