Bl**dy Labour nanny state
31 January 2005, 09:09 AM
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Bl**dy Labour nanny state
Just woken this morning to the news that co-proxamol is to be phased out because too many people are suiciding on it.
Well, isn't that just great? In order to protect people, many of whom will undoubtedly switch to something else, the government is to remove from the majority of users what is our only useful painkiller.
For those of you with knowledge of chronic pain, especially back pain, you will know that co-proxamol is perhaps the only reliable drug. It certainly is for me, and believe me I've tried others!
Whilst the wish to cut down on suicides is laudable, it shows that once again, Labour are doing something for the minority, while the majority can fukc off
God I hate those sanctimonious b@stards! I wish chronic back pain on whoever made this decision, so that he/she can lie awake at night wishing they had some release from it.
Alcazar
Well, isn't that just great? In order to protect people, many of whom will undoubtedly switch to something else, the government is to remove from the majority of users what is our only useful painkiller.
For those of you with knowledge of chronic pain, especially back pain, you will know that co-proxamol is perhaps the only reliable drug. It certainly is for me, and believe me I've tried others!
Whilst the wish to cut down on suicides is laudable, it shows that once again, Labour are doing something for the minority, while the majority can fukc off
God I hate those sanctimonious b@stards! I wish chronic back pain on whoever made this decision, so that he/she can lie awake at night wishing they had some release from it.
Alcazar
31 January 2005, 09:17 AM
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If you have any angst direct it at the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) http://www.mhra.gov.uk/ They do offer a contact us page 
31 January 2005, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewdelvard
If you have any angst direct it at the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) http://www.mhra.gov.uk/ They do offer a contact us page
I've already written to John Reid asking him to explain how this decision is giving ME more choice in the NHS, their stated aim from today
Alcazar
31 January 2005, 09:29 AM
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Anyone who agrees with me and needs this stuff, try:info@mhra.gsi.gov.uk
Or write to John Reid, or Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency
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Alcazar
Or write to John Reid, or Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency
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31 January 2005, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisB
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31 January 2005, 10:41 AM
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Wonder what pslewis's take is on this. According to him, everything is rosy under NL.
Hope things get sorted for the sufferers, at least an effective replacement.
Hope things get sorted for the sufferers, at least an effective replacement.
31 January 2005, 10:42 AM
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Surely somebody with half a brain can work out that if somebody wishes to commit suicide they will just choose another method 
Who thinks these things up?!!
Who thinks these things up?!!
31 January 2005, 10:47 AM
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I use Co-Dydramol which is a strong painkiller and does a great deal for my back and damaged leg and wrist. Also on prescription of course. Maybe if the truth was known, Co-Proxamyl is more expensive than the others!
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31 January 2005, 12:25 PM
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Just to give you some hope, I think there have been other cases where a drug has been withdrawn, then they've brought it back after enough patients complained about it.
31 January 2005, 01:14 PM
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I have been in extreme pain through a back injury and took a drug called TILEX ( I think that was the name of it?)
They were so strong that they would knock me out for hours on end superb!
I am sure that you can buy the pills on a private perscription, so whats the issue?
Labour would be liable if they failed to act and would have to spend your taxes on compensation payments ...... so, what do you want??
Pete
They were so strong that they would knock me out for hours on end superb!
I am sure that you can buy the pills on a private perscription, so whats the issue?
Labour would be liable if they failed to act and would have to spend your taxes on compensation payments ...... so, what do you want??
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31 January 2005, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
I also heard that Labour will be phasing out beds if they get their 3rd term. Apparently some 40% of people die in their bed!! Stop the carnage!! Ban Beds!!
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31 January 2005, 05:29 PM
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What does Co-proxamol offer that paracetemol doesn't? This news story says:
"But some say co-proxamol is no better than full strength paracetamol at relieving pain and is known to be very toxic in overdose."
"But some say co-proxamol is no better than full strength paracetamol at relieving pain and is known to be very toxic in overdose."
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31 January 2005, 06:09 PM
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Paracetamol is also very toxic in overdose. Infact for some people the amount that would kill them is only a few times above the effective dose. There is no way it would come anywhere close to being safe enough to be licensed today, yet people pop them like smarties. Also the most common drug used for attempted suicide. Probably another one for Tony's list.
31 January 2005, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
What does Co-proxamol offer that paracetemol doesn't?
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31 January 2005, 07:10 PM
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It's the dextropropoxyphene that makes it so effective.
It's a mild opiate so CoProx is MUCH more effective than even full strength paracetamol.
My local chemist says LOADS of people will be put put by this news
They just have NOT thought it out............I once ran out while on holiday in France and suffered sleepless nights of pain.
Suicide, anyone?
And surely, if you take away the effective drug, people will attempt to control the apin with EXTRA paracetamol, so waht price accidental overdoses then?
Bl**dy nanny state!
Note the use of the word "some". That's because somepeople can't take it, it has no real effect.
Alcazar
It's a mild opiate so CoProx is MUCH more effective than even full strength paracetamol.
My local chemist says LOADS of people will be put put by this news
They just have NOT thought it out............I once ran out while on holiday in France and suffered sleepless nights of pain.
Suicide, anyone?
And surely, if you take away the effective drug, people will attempt to control the apin with EXTRA paracetamol, so waht price accidental overdoses then?
Bl**dy nanny state!
"But some say co-proxamol is no better than full strength paracetamol at relieving pain and is known to be very toxic in overdose."
Alcazar
01 February 2005, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
I found that Co-Proxamol did jack shít for easing pain for me. Co-Dydramol and Co-Codamol are far more effective painkillers.
How long before yours go, because the suicides/accidental overdosers swop to those two?
And since it's the paracetamol that does most of the damage, why not ban that too?
Let's all go back to aspirin, shall we?
Or how about chewing willow bark?
Or even burying a silver penny in a churchyard at midnight
Bloody nanny state!
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01 February 2005, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Ban culture and knee-jerk reaction at its worst...... yet again.
01 February 2005, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Stick it out mate, they'll get round to banning cats eventually
LOL!
I should add, however, that I don't want cats banned, that would be unfair on responsible owners. I want the uncontrolled release of cats prohibited (as all other non indigenous predators already are).
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