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Old 06 January 2005, 12:12 PM
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And you owe the bank x amount of money but have no insurance, cover or other funds to pay does the debt get wiped off? If not, who's responsible for payment?
Old 06 January 2005, 12:15 PM
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depends if you have a wife etc. generally if not and your single, its just written of as a loss, most banks account for this in some sort of way.

also good point to note is if you dont have direct life cover that you pay for, most employers offer death in service insurance where they will pay out to your next of kin, upto 4 times your gross annuall salary, they usually insure themselves for the loss of you as well, similar to a keyman insurance.

so your family would have some sort of moneys to clear any debts you may have.

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Old 06 January 2005, 01:18 PM
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why worry you will be dead!!

or are you planning some kind of debt avoidance scam

Personally i have cover for the mortgage (necessary) and cover for my one loan, i also have death in service, so my lady stands to make quite a nice bonus if i croak (i'm watching my back!)
Old 06 January 2005, 01:19 PM
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Friend of mine always gets a bit peeved when he hears about how rich people are. His phrase is "When you think about it, would you prefer to die owning a million pounds, or owing a million pounds?" He certainly has a point!
Old 06 January 2005, 01:21 PM
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rik1471, it's illegal to fake your own death mate!

Not a bad idea though!!
Old 06 January 2005, 01:22 PM
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Friend of mine always gets a bit peeved when he hears about how rich people are. His phrase is "When you think about it, would you prefer to die owning a million pounds, or owing a million pounds?" He certainly has a point!
I'm sure his kids don't think so
Old 06 January 2005, 01:51 PM
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just settling an office argument - not planning anything.
Old 06 January 2005, 03:19 PM
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The bank become a creditor in your estate (such as it may be) and are entitled to payment from whatever assets you have.
Old 06 January 2005, 07:07 PM
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When my mother in law died, she had lived in council accomodation all her life, and after her funeral, there was about -£15 left!

We got final bills from electricity, gas etc, but sent them her death certificate, and details of the will ,and they just wrote it off.

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Old 06 January 2005, 07:23 PM
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Does the death in service payment get included in your estate, ie any remaining debts get paid out of this payment before a girlfriend (named as the beneficiary of the payment) gets any money?
Old 06 January 2005, 09:16 PM
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Does the death in service payment get included in your estate, ie any remaining debts get paid out of this payment before a girlfriend (named as the beneficiary of the payment) gets any money?
Well in my case my employer invited me to write a letter of wishes to the Trustees who will then distribute the Death in service benefit to my chosen beneficiaries in the proportions laid out in my letter. They are noy legally obliged to do so but it is very rarely rejected. That payment falls outside my estate for Inheritance Tax purposes. You can also do the same with life policies so that none of these "windfalls" come into your estate for IHT.

That's UK law though Jerome!

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Old 06 January 2005, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JFB
Well in my case my employer invited me to write a letter of wishes to the Trustees who will then distribute the Death in service benefit to my chosen beneficiaries in the proportions laid out in my letter. They are noy legally obliged to do so but it is very rarely rejected. That payment falls outside my estate for Inheritance Tax purposes. You can also do the same with life policies so that none of these "windfalls" come into your estate for IHT.

That's UK law though Jerome!

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Cheers, Jerome.

I have no intention of croaking just yet, but wondered if my gf would actually get anything if I did died with huge debt.

Having said that, all my debt is in the UK and any DIS benefits would come from a Canadian company.
Old 06 January 2005, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Friend of mine always gets a bit peeved when he hears about how rich people are. His phrase is "When you think about it, would you prefer to die owning a million pounds, or owing a million pounds?" He certainly has a point!
I'd probably die if I owed a million

I'd rather die with a million thanks, less stress leading up to it, I'm sure.

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Old 07 January 2005, 09:14 AM
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Like JFB has said, if you create a trust or the benefits are already written in trust, the beneficiary should get them direct.

But basically your estate pays off your creditors before any payments are made to your beneficiaries (if your estate is being admnistered in the UK)
Old 07 January 2005, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by judgejules
I'd probably die if I owed a million

I'd rather die with a million thanks, less stress leading up to it, I'm sure.

J
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