Scooby96

But a jolly letter asking me to incriminate myself!

Anyone got links to the pepipoo (?sp) website, or previous threads on here??

Thanks

RR

http://www.pepipoo.com/NewForums2/index.php

Scooby96

Anyone got a specific link to a letter template I can send them in response, something to do with not incriminating myself / righ to silence etc?

Scooby96

Found it, tarr RR

robby

what did you find? - i'm in the same situation so need help

cheers

Scooby96

Posted: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:18:14 +0000 Post subject: ECHR The Right To Silence

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Idris Francis is appealing the right to remain silent to the ECHR.

However, in the opinion of a scholar specialising in European law [Jackie], the ECHR has already decided the matter in our favour. Furthermore, the ruling in Idris Francis’ recent High Court appeal may itself have been unsafe, and this link has more details.

With the backing of a specialist in UK traffic law, it is intended to take this matter to the European Court of Justice –ECJ.

Should you decide to submit the following letter, don’t forget to send it by special delivery:



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Date:
NIP Ref:
Vehicle Registration:

Dear Chief Constable, (you should be able to get their contact details from this site - http://www.police.uk/ )

Further to the above Notice of Intended Prosecution for an alleged motoring offence: I have been informed that the case law of the European Court of Human Rights indicates that the fundamental and enduring principle of a person’s right to silence and avoidance of self-incrimination is applicable to Section 172 Road Traffic Act 1988.

I would like to exercise my fundamental right to remain silent, and draw your attention to Appendix I of this letter, which contains the case law upon which my defence will rely.

Yours sincerely,
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Appendix I

Brown v Stott (Procurator Fiscal, Dunfermline) and another Privy Council [2001] 2 All ER 97

John Murray V UK (ECHR 00018731/91para

Case of Weh v Austria- (Application no. 38544/1997) ECHR

Case of Funke v France (Application No 00010828/84) ECHR

JB v Switzerland- (Application no. 31827/1996) ECHR

Heaney and McGuiness v Ireland (Application no. 34720/97)

Debate House of Lords Cols, 447 515, 535 18 November, 1997

White Paper Human Rights Brought Home s2.7 and 2.8

Sections 2 and 3.1 Human Rights Act 1998

Ireland v UK 1979-80 ECHR

Wille v Lichtenstein 1997 ECHR

Internationale Handelsgesellschaft mbH v Einfuhr Case 11/70 [1989] AC 66

Article F2 Treaty of Maastricht

Friedrich Kremzow v Republik Österreich. C299/1995

Bernard Connolly v Commission Case C-274/1999

Eugen Schmidberger, Internationale Transporte and Planzuge v Republik Osterreich ECJ C-112/2000

Limburgse Vinyl Maatschappij NV (LVM) (C-238/1999 P), DSM NV and DSM Kunststoffen BV (C-244/1999 P), Montedison SpA (C-245/1999 P), Elf Atochem SA (C-247/1999 P), Degussa AG (C-250/1999 P), Enichem SpA (C-251/1999 P), Wacker-Chemie GmbH and Hoechst AG (C-252/1999 P) and Imperial Chemical Industries plc (ICI) (C-254/1999 P) v Commission of the European Communities. Joined cases C-38/1999 P, C-244/1999 P, C-245/1999 P, C-247/1999 P, C-250/1999 P to C-252/1999 P and C-254/1999 P.ECR

Grimaldi (Salvatore) v Fonds des Malaides Professionnelles Case C 322/88

Directive 2000/56

Commission Recommendation of 6 April 2004 on enforcement in the field of road safety Celex Number 32004H0345

Hertfordshire County Council, Ex Parte Green Environmental Industries Ltd and Another, R v. [2000] UKHL 11; [2000] 2 AC 412; [2000] 1 All ER 773; [2000] 2 WLR 373 (17th February, 2000)
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Scooby96

Anyone know if I have to copy and paste this letter or can I add a paragraph to inform them that I also didnt receive the NIP, just the chase letter ???

GC8

From the title: the content isnt what I was expecting.....

Scooby96

What address should I send the letter to?

The address on the letter (Central Ticket Office) or the address for the Chief Constable of Kent?

Scooby96

Anyone got a direct link to the PACE letter thing too?