Should bands do an encore?
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Should bands do an encore?
Saw the manics in london on Thursday night, came back feeling disappointed and let down as they didn't do an encore. What other bands have people seen who can't be asred to do an encore?
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Saw Jesus and the Mary Chain at Hammersmith Palais play one song, a bottle was thrown at them and they went off. riot ensued police called, the works.
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Saw LostProphets at Leeds uni a couple of weeks ago. Made it quite clear that they weren't going to do an encore as the whole "Ooh will they, won't they," thing is an insult to the fans' intelligence. Stonking set though, recommended
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Madonna at Earl's Court this year. The seats were a rip-off, (£150 each for "category 1" seats, which were crap), the merchandise and programmes were a rip-off and she couldn't even be arsed to do an encore.
I was disgusted. This year she lost at least one fan who's been there right from the beginning.
I was disgusted. This year she lost at least one fan who's been there right from the beginning.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
£150. Christ on a bike.
Most of the "category 1" seats were so far from the stage it was all but impossible to tell which little figure was actually Madonna.
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Greed is a terrible thing. I'd expect a blowie off of Madonna for that.
...If I were single and not happily married.
And I meant the programme price, not the ticket.
...If I were single and not happily married.
And I meant the programme price, not the ticket.
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Encores are such a cliche. They should do what the Cure did when I saw them at Wembley. Do a set, say 'we're off for 10 minutes to take a break', come back, do the next load of songs then say 'give us 5 minutes, we fancy a break' then do the last bit and then say 'thanks', lights on and we all go home.
What I hate is all this, 'shall we', 'shan't we' etc. when they know full well they're gonna come back for 3 more songs then saying 'thanks, that 'really' is it' - as if we didn't know
You either rock or you don't. Encore cliche's make no difference.
What I hate is all this, 'shall we', 'shan't we' etc. when they know full well they're gonna come back for 3 more songs then saying 'thanks, that 'really' is it' - as if we didn't know
You either rock or you don't. Encore cliche's make no difference.
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Every band I have seen have done an Encore....I think it's the LAW . I did however get bored by the 3rd encore by Bon Jovi once.....it was like....yeah just get it over with! I want to go home.
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Encores are such a cliche. They should do what the Cure did when I saw them at Wembley. Do a set, say 'we're off for 10 minutes to take a break', come back, do the next load of songs then say 'give us 5 minutes, we fancy a break' then do the last bit and then say 'thanks', lights on and we all go home.
What I hate is all this, 'shall we', 'shan't we' etc. when they know full well they're gonna come back for 3 more songs then saying 'thanks, that 'really' is it' - as if we didn't know
You either rock or you don't. Encore cliche's make no difference.
What I hate is all this, 'shall we', 'shan't we' etc. when they know full well they're gonna come back for 3 more songs then saying 'thanks, that 'really' is it' - as if we didn't know
You either rock or you don't. Encore cliche's make no difference.
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I guess that part of this is down to the band and part down to the audience. If the audience go mad even if the performance was pretty average then it is reasonable to expect that the band might think you loved them and come back on.
I think they should only encore if there is "demand" for it and I think, certainly in some situations, it would do audiences no harm to know the difference between a good performance and an average or bad one.
I went to London to see Pletnev conduct the Rach 3rd piano concerto. It was the most awful performance of the work I've ever had the misfortune to sit through, so bad that I can't even remember who the soloist was. Despite this the RFH went mad with people clapping and even a very few standing! I stood alright, but only to make a dash for the door.
Now clearly there are different points of reference for the quality of the performance, if you are a teenage girl going to see a boy band then it is all good, if you go along to see Status Quo for a laugh and a dance then you will probably get a good show and it would be reasonable to show appreciation which might lead to an encore. I saw Quo several times in the early 80's and they were great fun, honestly, and well worth an encore.
However, when Pletnev starts a concerto marked allegro like it was a presto the audience should be discerning enough to know that something is not right and that the performance certainly doesn't deserve the sort of reaction that might lead to an encore. Perhaps, however, some people were just there for a night out and maybe they enjoyed it enough to think that it deserved an encore, just like I might go to see Quo for some fun but without considering the intrepretation or musicianship.
It is a hard one to call but perhaps audiences should be a little more critical in their approach as this would not only discourage random encores but it may also do something to increase the standard of performance. You have to balance this with just getting out there and having a good time.
I think they should only encore if there is "demand" for it and I think, certainly in some situations, it would do audiences no harm to know the difference between a good performance and an average or bad one.
I went to London to see Pletnev conduct the Rach 3rd piano concerto. It was the most awful performance of the work I've ever had the misfortune to sit through, so bad that I can't even remember who the soloist was. Despite this the RFH went mad with people clapping and even a very few standing! I stood alright, but only to make a dash for the door.
Now clearly there are different points of reference for the quality of the performance, if you are a teenage girl going to see a boy band then it is all good, if you go along to see Status Quo for a laugh and a dance then you will probably get a good show and it would be reasonable to show appreciation which might lead to an encore. I saw Quo several times in the early 80's and they were great fun, honestly, and well worth an encore.
However, when Pletnev starts a concerto marked allegro like it was a presto the audience should be discerning enough to know that something is not right and that the performance certainly doesn't deserve the sort of reaction that might lead to an encore. Perhaps, however, some people were just there for a night out and maybe they enjoyed it enough to think that it deserved an encore, just like I might go to see Quo for some fun but without considering the intrepretation or musicianship.
It is a hard one to call but perhaps audiences should be a little more critical in their approach as this would not only discourage random encores but it may also do something to increase the standard of performance. You have to balance this with just getting out there and having a good time.
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Every band I've seen has done an encore as far as I can remember. I went to 'The Big Day Out' in MK *some* years back and Metallica were headlining with Marilyn Manson as number 2, problem is Metallica fans and Manson fans don't get along.
Manson was booed as soon as he got on the stage and only did a couple of songs with bottles raining down on him before leaving the stage Someone clearly challenged him to a fight in a quiet bit and Manson indicated for the bloke to come on up to the stage at which point hte crowd parted to allow the bloke forward unfortunately the security guards were being sensible
Metallica played about twice as long as they were meant to just to make up for Manson not doing a full set so good on them
Manson was booed as soon as he got on the stage and only did a couple of songs with bottles raining down on him before leaving the stage Someone clearly challenged him to a fight in a quiet bit and Manson indicated for the bloke to come on up to the stage at which point hte crowd parted to allow the bloke forward unfortunately the security guards were being sensible
Metallica played about twice as long as they were meant to just to make up for Manson not doing a full set so good on them
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Returning to the manics they clearly couldn't be bothered. The projector remained on showing a film reel and the lights remained dimmed then suddenly the lights switched on and everyone went home. They didn't even do some of their best songs which gave the impression that they were being saved for a rousing encore (that never arrived)
Call it an encore or not, call it a cliche or not "I" think they should do one.
Call it an encore or not, call it a cliche or not "I" think they should do one.
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