16vmarc

Turning an animal shelter into a house on a budget of 16k!!

16vmarc

Am i following this right? In Italy you have to build the property (encouraged by the government it seems) before you are granted planning permission!!! And you only get 1 year in every 10 to actually apply!!!!

super_si

saves me getting off my **** to watch it wont bother last weeks house was good i thought for 100k

LG John

I was playing poker with this on in the background and missed the details on the planning system over there but it sounded like they had to apply in retrospect despite the fact the building wasn't built (er, wtf!) so they placed the blocks but didn't cement them and took pictures?! I also heard they had a window of a few months with planning otherwise they couldn't make an application for another 10 years

Can someone fill in the gaps? Wtf was that all about?

16vmarc

Yeah thats exactly it. It seems they have limited time to complete the build too.

LG John

As a planning officer it would be my vision of heaven if I could phone the 90-odd applicant's I'm currently dealing with tomorrow and say, "sorry, you've missed your window of oppertunity please drop me a line in 2114"

16vmarc

Its a funny carry on though isnt it!!!

super_si

its an old Olive farm no pet place lol

16vmarc

It used to be an animal shelter though

unclebuck

Good people. I have nothing but respect for that kind of dogged determination and resourcefulness.

The planning and building regs rock too.

UB

what would scooby do

Aye true brit spirit in those two - "sod it, lets get on with it"

BOB.T

What a cool building, I love it!

Dream Weaver

Sound couple, and amazing work - loved it!!

Brendan Hughes

Kenny, if you think 10 years after 2004 is 2114, I think you're going to get a few appeals

NotoriousREV

My mum built her own house in Tenerife (not personally, but you know what I mean). The planning regs are similar: if you apply for planning permission it costs £10k per application and rarely gets accepted 1st time. If you build it without permission and no one complains for 5 years, you've gotten away with it, if someone does complain they'll fine you about £2000 but after that you're in the clear.

Wish

iTrader: (2)

Hats off to the family .............

Patt@firstime

PMSL @ call me in 10 years - 2114

Fat Boy

Two planning methods as far as I recall:

One: upfront, all fees paid, plans submitted etc UK stylee - relatively cheap but will take forever (italian bureaucratic speed being what it is)

Two: Build it anyway and then apply for retrospective PP. Expensive (Last nights cost £8K out of his 24k leaving him just 16k to do the work). permission then granted every 10 years.

The Planning Officer happily admitted that it's a means of making money for the authority as no one sensible bothers with route one.

The other interesting wrinkle is that they will only allow you to start one of the retrospective type jobs if you can show that a building of some sort already exists, hence the bit at the start where they had to put up dry block walls under a corrugated iron roof to make a "building" out of a pile of rubble.

Oh and no building regs inspections/inspectors...

I though that they were a great couple - he's a sculptor so he decided to make a 4 or 5 bed guest house out of an old rough stone cow shed with a colonnaded and arched verandah/loggia at the front by carving all the blocks himself out of local stone.

He made something like 10 arches and by the end he could carve perfectly the 19 stones for each arch from raw rock and then put them up in one day flat. Pretty good going for a 60 odd year old bloke.

Mungo

Yeah, they really put to shame those daft tarts on "Property Ladder" shown before Grand Designs... £259k to **** up the interior of a nice Art Deco place.