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Old 28 August 2004, 11:47 AM
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Is there any new techology thats gonna transform them on the horizon,or any sudden price drop about to happen.

Looking at a 17in w/s.
Old 28 August 2004, 12:01 PM
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believe there is an issue with life span? maybe worth checking out.

apparantly they only last for like a few years max. which isnt really acceptable for something so expensive.

i will get more details from ones father, who backed out of buying one for that reason.

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Old 28 August 2004, 04:18 PM
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I work in the trade (Sevenoaks Sound & Vision). No real problems with lifespan, they're just a little slow (the refresh rate of each pixel, that is) so moving objects can "smear" across the picture. Sharp tell us that LCD will take over from Plasma for larger screens too, but they've got a lot of catching up to do at 40" and above. At 17", picture quality is ok though. Remember, you're paying for convenience as well as picture quality (only 3" deep!).

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Old 28 August 2004, 06:25 PM
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There is a phillips 17 in w/s i like.In march it was 749,now its 599 at currys.will they continue to come down?
Old 28 August 2004, 06:51 PM
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Paul - I would say there probably wont be any more immediate movement on that phillips screen for a while yet to be honest but I may turn out to be completely wrong!

Steve - Just out of interest, which sevenoaks store are you at?
Old 28 August 2004, 08:15 PM
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Paul
I have had a 20 inch lcd in the bedroom for the last 8 months, its a sharp widescreen model and i am well chuffed with it.. All i can say is that they are coming down in price and well worth the investment. If you are on a budget richer sounds do the relisys 17inch widescreen model for around 350-400, ideal for a spare tv etc..
http://www.richersounds.com/index.ph...l.php&p=301643

good luck

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Old 28 August 2004, 11:31 PM
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whats the viewing angles like on an lcd screen?
Old 29 August 2004, 12:40 PM
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richer sounds have a relysis 17' wide screen for around 400 nice wee picture on it
Old 29 August 2004, 02:05 PM
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I'm at the Peterborough Sevenoaks (franchise partner)
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Old 29 August 2004, 02:17 PM
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Sony do a lovely 37" LCD at £8500 - the picture has to be seen to be believed!

Anyway, the prices will always drop (and the items get better) - just look at digital cameras!!

You need to jump in at one point - and now may be as good as ever?

I have heard a story of a new technology coming out using mirrors (tiny mirrors that project the colour) - at half the price of LCD and Plasma!

I am not too sure about the reliability of that info. however - anyone heard the same??

Pete
Old 29 August 2004, 05:33 PM
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LCD is pretty good now. My philips has a viewing angle of 170 degrees horizontal and vertical, so you can watch it at angles that really aren't practical

Refresh isn't really an issue with good ones either. If you have a 16ms refresh rate, thats enough for a 60Hz update for NTSC.

I bought mine for £2k, and would have no issues with buying what is now last years model, rather than spend extra for a bit more tech.

I'm also looking at 17" W/S for the new garage conversion - want to use it as a TV and PC monitor.
Old 29 August 2004, 06:37 PM
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Thanks.
Old 29 August 2004, 10:16 PM
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I bought a 30" LCD through my work recently - comes with wall mounting brackets, 3 year warranty and stand. 170degree h & v viewing angle and split screen viewing...

1400 quid. Top one !! Its a dream with me Xbox...
Old 29 August 2004, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have heard a story of a new technology coming out using mirrors (tiny mirrors that project the colour) - at half the price of LCD and Plasma!
Pete I think that is DLP - Digital Light Processing. DLP is very impressive, although I'm not sure it will be at those kind of prices for sometime (certainly decent quality ones anyway). Anyone interested should have a look at the Texas Instruments site.

At the moment, LCD is the way forward.

Chris
Old 30 August 2004, 11:20 AM
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plus DLP is a reflective technology, so will always need some depth. Rear projection is about as slim as it'll get (about 18inches deep). Fine for that, and for normal projectors, but not for hang on the wall.

LCD has come on leaps and bounds, and IMO is the current tech to beat. Plasma goes bigger for slightly less (although you can now get 42" LCD), but LCD is higher res.

Next big things are a couple of years away (SED/NED, OLED etc) - lots of promises, but nothing real to be seen yet.
Old 30 August 2004, 11:25 AM
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I feel that in common with the price of LCD computer monitors Paul, the price of LCD TVs should also come down as they become more common. There are improvements being made in LCDs all the time, both in refresh speed and size of screens.

I would also like one but am going to wait for a bit to see how it all develops.

Les
Old 30 August 2004, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyjimbo
Paul
If you are on a budget richer sounds do the relisys 17inch widescreen model for around 350-400, ideal for a spare tv etc..
http://www.richersounds.com/index.ph...l.php&p=301643
I have one of these and the picture quality is as good as any LCD I've seen. The downside is that the case is a bit plasticky.
Old 30 August 2004, 02:45 PM
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I work next door to Relisys, and have done some work for them recently

I was horrified at how much mark up is on LCD Technology (at least 60-65% pure profit)

Needless to say, Im not in any rush to buy one (unless I can get the Relisys staff discount )
Old 30 August 2004, 03:07 PM
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You think theres markup in LCD TVs, you should see the markup in glasses frames. £150 Calvin Klein frames that cost about 3 quid.......
Old 30 August 2004, 06:57 PM
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I know I shouldn't encourage threads to go off track - but if you want mark up - try text messages. Each one costs the network about 0.001p to process and they charge anything from 10p upwards. Work out the margin on that (even at 2p a text.....). Then figure that there were over 50 billion texts sent last year in the UK alone
Old 30 August 2004, 08:39 PM
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I've got an LCD monitor,i dont see the prices of them coming down that rapidly any more.Digital cameras yes,the prices just keep dropping.
Old 31 August 2004, 07:26 AM
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Viewing angles are poor on LCD, I went for a Panasonic Plasma, best thing I ever did, its just fantastic........
Old 31 August 2004, 10:58 AM
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Bought a Sony Vaio W1 pc. It's also a 17" LCD widescreen tv as well.
Did some good haggling and got over £200 knocked off from Costco
Old 31 August 2004, 11:11 AM
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ive bought this one about 3 months ago and as far as im concerned its mint, ive heard all the life span issue's asre with the plasma screens and LCD is perfectly fine

http://www.microwarehouse.co.uk/prod...5FE036072EA845
Old 31 August 2004, 11:15 AM
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I would hold off for 3 reasons:

1: TOKYO, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Japan's Hitachi Ltd. (6501.T: Quote, Profile, Research) , Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co. (6752.T: Quote, Profile, Research) and Toshiba Corp. (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) are set to unveil later on Tuesday plans to jointly produce large liquid crystal display (LCD) panels in a venture reportedly to cost 100 billion yen ($909.5 million). source

2. There was an announcement about 4 months ago I think by LG to build 2 new factories in (IIRC) Korea specialising in flat/plasma screen technology.

3. Samsung predict flat screen prices falling by as much as 20% over Q3/4 2004 source


I'm waiting at least another 2 years before I seriously start thinking about a 42" plasma
Old 31 August 2004, 11:29 AM
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Get a sony wega platform TV... they are sweet.... the dogs dangly bits!

Sony Wega TV
Old 31 August 2004, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
I would hold off for 3 reasons:

1: [i]TOKYO, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Japan's Hitachi Ltd. (6501.T: Quote, Profile, Research) , Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co. (6752.T: Quote, Profile, Research) and Toshiba Corp. (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) are set to unveil later on Tuesday plans to jointly produce large liquid crystal display (LCD) panels in a venture reportedly to cost 100 billion yen

"The factory will begin production in 2006". And it doesn't say Jan or Dec...
Old 31 August 2004, 11:40 AM
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bah! humbug ok, I'm waiting 3 years then
Old 31 August 2004, 01:05 PM
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I think prices will drop, HP announced they will start selling them in "the fall", which should provide some price pressures.

http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/h...elevisions.jsp

regards,

Greg
Old 31 August 2004, 01:33 PM
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I paid £480 for a Toshiba 17" widescreen, from Costco, including 3 years warranty. It's just won an eiditors choice in Home Cinema magazine too.

Great picture, wide viewing angle and good value for money IMO.

Dan


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