is it reasonable to terminate one or more foxes cos they are annoying?
17 August 2004, 07:34 PM
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is it reasonable to terminate one or more foxes cos they are annoying?
i have a long running dispute with some urban foxes that favour my back garden as a place to rut, dig, scream, mess about, urinate and defecate.
after being woken up last night at 0300 (for the hundredth or more time), i am considering drasic action. i don't have anything against foxes, but this is getting beyond a joke.
would i be justified in bringing on the final solution?
after being woken up last night at 0300 (for the hundredth or more time), i am considering drasic action. i don't have anything against foxes, but this is getting beyond a joke.
would i be justified in bringing on the final solution?
17 August 2004, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
would i be justified in bringing on the final solution?
Hire 80 hounds, 12 horses and 12 brainless toffs?
17 August 2004, 08:19 PM
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well that seems nice and conclusive: either hire a load of toffs to come and mash up the garden even more, or else blow their f***ing heads off.
not much of a choice, is it?
not much of a choice, is it?
17 August 2004, 08:21 PM
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Trouble is they can't be shot - far too tricky to shoot - well at least according to the hunting fraternity anyway - except of course they shoot them all the time in rural France - maybe the French foxes are just far more obliging as far as the old lead shot up the jacksie goes
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17 August 2004, 08:37 PM
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Can't be shot?
My colleagues have had eight in the last few evenings.....a million candlepower searchlight, a VERY expensive Swarovski scope, some lethal 4000fps home loaded ammo, and a rather good shot who can nail a fox at at least 200 metres.......night night Reynard
My colleagues have had eight in the last few evenings.....a million candlepower searchlight, a VERY expensive Swarovski scope, some lethal 4000fps home loaded ammo, and a rather good shot who can nail a fox at at least 200 metres.......night night Reynard
17 August 2004, 08:38 PM
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foxes are just noisy dogs.
i got one comes in my back garden and my two dozy mutts take no notice,even when it lays down and goes to sleep.
wouldnt shoot a healthy dog so wouldnt shoot a healthy fox.
but at the same time i can understand the problems caused by them in rural areas and where appropriate humane culling.
i got one comes in my back garden and my two dozy mutts take no notice,even when it lays down and goes to sleep.
wouldnt shoot a healthy dog so wouldnt shoot a healthy fox.
but at the same time i can understand the problems caused by them in rural areas and where appropriate humane culling.
17 August 2004, 08:50 PM
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if my neighbour's dog regularly woke me up at 1/2/3/4/5 am, dug holes in my lawn, brought rubbish and uneaten food into my garden, pissed and shat everywhere, played tug-of-war with my plants and shrubs; then i'd think very seriously about shooting it, or at least getting the RSPCA to take it away. unfortunately that isn't possible with these animals.
17 August 2004, 08:57 PM
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Depends how urban you are and what your boundaries are like as I wouldn't fancy much being charged by the police with discharging a firearm near a road, public footpath, near neighbours properties etc. Also are your neighbours friendly and sympathetic to your cause? If they arn't and they see you shooting a fox they might dump you in the ****.
17 August 2004, 09:00 PM
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on a more serious note a mate of mine got a lightly electrified fence set up.
a) it kept his doberman in and b) it kept the foxes that it kept ripping to bits and making a mess of his garden(and his kitchen)where the dog had all day access to out
not sure where he got it but seem to remember it wasnt expensive.
a) it kept his doberman in and b) it kept the foxes that it kept ripping to bits and making a mess of his garden(and his kitchen)where the dog had all day access to out
not sure where he got it but seem to remember it wasnt expensive.
17 August 2004, 09:07 PM
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Obviously you can't shoot them in your back garden - a .223 has an affective killing range (to a human too, with a head shot) of around a quarter to a half mile.......
Trapping them and releasing them alive? You can under the Wildlife and Countryside Act as it is not a non native species.
In back gardens, no easy solution other than to stop them getting in there in the first place.
Trapping them and releasing them alive? You can under the Wildlife and Countryside Act as it is not a non native species.
In back gardens, no easy solution other than to stop them getting in there in the first place.
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17 August 2004, 09:10 PM
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sureley the RSPCA will trap them for you?
if not:
http://www.trap-man.com/fox-traps.htm
http://www.trap-man.com/trapmanstore/qd000000.html
if not:
http://www.trap-man.com/fox-traps.htm
http://www.trap-man.com/trapmanstore/qd000000.html
17 August 2004, 09:48 PM
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mj - intersting site.
it seems that the problem i have is caused by a litter of cubs. if what they say is right, these should soon grow up and f*ck off. if not, that live trap looks quite handy - i could trap one or two and dump 'em in the forest (alive, obviously.)
obviously firearms are out of the question due to proximity of neighbours and so on. i reckon it would be possible to get away witha cross-bow, though. fairly safe as the shot would be angled down from the 1st floor of the house into the garden.
in the mean time i've bought a big mag-lite to dazzle the f*ckers with, when they next wake me up.
it seems that the problem i have is caused by a litter of cubs. if what they say is right, these should soon grow up and f*ck off. if not, that live trap looks quite handy - i could trap one or two and dump 'em in the forest (alive, obviously.)
obviously firearms are out of the question due to proximity of neighbours and so on. i reckon it would be possible to get away witha cross-bow, though. fairly safe as the shot would be angled down from the 1st floor of the house into the garden.
in the mean time i've bought a big mag-lite to dazzle the f*ckers with, when they next wake me up.
17 August 2004, 11:17 PM
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Foxes are indeed a pesky little mite!
They are rather clever, but with some basic knowledge can be shot with ease.
Good video is 'Andre - Whistling with foxes'. http://www.foxshot.co.uk/whistle.html
He gets them in so close he could stroke them.
But you say urban foxes, so blasting them ins't an option in this case.
Call the RSPCA and tell them you are going to kill them, they will then come and take them away in a van, they then drive into the countryside and release them.... Where I then shoot them anyway.
Job Done!
Or, call the A Team
http://www.breezems.com
They are rather clever, but with some basic knowledge can be shot with ease.
Good video is 'Andre - Whistling with foxes'. http://www.foxshot.co.uk/whistle.html
He gets them in so close he could stroke them.
But you say urban foxes, so blasting them ins't an option in this case.
Call the RSPCA and tell them you are going to kill them, they will then come and take them away in a van, they then drive into the countryside and release them.... Where I then shoot them anyway.
Job Done!
Or, call the A Team
http://www.breezems.com
17 August 2004, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
if my neighbour's dog regularly woke me up at 1/2/3/4/5 am, dug holes in my lawn, brought rubbish and uneaten food into my garden, pissed and shat everywhere, played tug-of-war with my plants and shrubs; then i'd think very seriously about shooting it, or at least getting the RSPCA to take it away. unfortunately that isn't possible with these animals.
Glad you've said that cos if that's ok then doing the same to cats should be fine
And we'd all love to do that wouldn't we kids
17 August 2004, 11:32 PM
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LOL here we go...
Oh and forgot to say, a mate of mine ignored the boundary issue of using a firearm. He had a couple of pet bunnies in the garden that belonged to his daughters. Unfortunately one night mr fox dined in his garden and broke into the bunnies cages and feasted and his daughters weren't too happy the next day.
I got an email a few days later saying look what I bagged last night, opened it to find a picture of him standing in his garden at night with his rifle in one hand and a very large dead fox in the other, looking like some trophy kill photo from an African hunt lol. He had waited out for it and shot it as soon as it entered the garden. He is ex forces and sometimes he worries me at times - guns in gardens to me is not the appropriate place - did the job I suppose though
Oh and forgot to say, a mate of mine ignored the boundary issue of using a firearm. He had a couple of pet bunnies in the garden that belonged to his daughters. Unfortunately one night mr fox dined in his garden and broke into the bunnies cages and feasted and his daughters weren't too happy the next day.
I got an email a few days later saying look what I bagged last night, opened it to find a picture of him standing in his garden at night with his rifle in one hand and a very large dead fox in the other, looking like some trophy kill photo from an African hunt lol. He had waited out for it and shot it as soon as it entered the garden. He is ex forces and sometimes he worries me at times - guns in gardens to me is not the appropriate place - did the job I suppose though
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17 August 2004, 11:33 PM
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A decent fence?
We had a couple of hundred yards of post and rail with wire which did the trick (although the rabbits always seemed to find a way in). Shoot 'em and their mates will be back next season. DL
We had a couple of hundred yards of post and rail with wire which did the trick (although the rabbits always seemed to find a way in). Shoot 'em and their mates will be back next season. DL
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Bloody hell Nevetas, just looked at your site, looks like you shoot just about any wild animal that moves Shooting wolves in Croatia??? I can see the need for humane control of foxes on farms etc but to go to a country to shoot wolves or bears??? Sorry to me that just seems a little like game hunting in Africa where any beautiful creature is up for the kill 
If I have the wrong end of the stick sorry but as someone who thinks wolves are a fantastic creature and fascinate me I find it a little sickening to think people go abroad to kill them for kicks. I would like to see the wolf reintroduced as a wild animal in the remote parts of Britain where it used to live, but I guess with people about with hunting enthusiasm such as yourself then they wouldn't last too long 
Oh and don't get me wrong, by no means am I anti gun/shooting, I like shooting but of the inanimate object kind such as clay pigeon with shotguns and fixed target with semi or automatic weapons. However I see no reason for shooting wolves, bears or deer apart from a bloody thirsty kick.
Shooting wolves in Croatia??? I can see the need for humane control of foxes on farms etc but to go to a country to shoot wolves or bears??? Sorry to me that just seems a little like game hunting in Africa where any beautiful creature is up for the kill If I have the wrong end of the stick sorry but as someone who thinks wolves are a fantastic creature and fascinate me I find it a little sickening to think people go abroad to kill them for kicks. I would like to see the wolf reintroduced as a wild animal in the remote parts of Britain where it used to live, but I guess with people about with hunting enthusiasm such as yourself then they wouldn't last too long Oh and don't get me wrong, by no means am I anti gun/shooting, I like shooting but of the inanimate object kind such as clay pigeon with shotguns and fixed target with semi or automatic weapons. However I see no reason for shooting wolves, bears or deer apart from a bloody thirsty kick.
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18 August 2004, 07:57 AM
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Why not call a pest controll company like teminix, they will shoot then for you. Other good ways are as above by trapping them then releasing them in the middle of a council estate to keep the chavs awake
18 August 2004, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by andypugh2000
Other good ways are as above by trapping them then releasing them in the middle of a council estate to keep the chavs awake
18 August 2004, 08:25 AM
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You could buy a fox snare - they are humane in that it will not strangle the fox, leaving it up to you to either tap it over the head with a spade or use a crossbow/shotgun.
Anyway what's wrong with Nevetas shooting Bears, Wild Boar, Deer and wolves in Croatia ? they are probably pest species being culled just as we do with Deer in the UK and getting in foreign shooters brings in money to the local economy and still gets the job done.
Anyway what's wrong with Nevetas shooting Bears, Wild Boar, Deer and wolves in Croatia ? they are probably pest species being culled just as we do with Deer in the UK and getting in foreign shooters brings in money to the local economy and still gets the job done.
18 August 2004, 08:31 AM
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Re: the wolf shooting thing - if they are a pest in the area then fair enough, but i agree with B2Z that it isn't really on to go about destroying rare wildlife purely for "fun".