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UB, they're only 4 grand less than the X5. I'm astounded!
Quite how top gear can think AWD on the Jag is the best thing since sliced bread then feel it completely unnecessary on the X3 is beyond me, but when has journalistic talent or consistency of opinion ever applied to top gear?
It still looks a complete nail of a car tho . The first pic on this thread is the best looking verrsion I've seen!
Quite how top gear can think AWD on the Jag is the best thing since sliced bread then feel it completely unnecessary on the X3 is beyond me, but when has journalistic talent or consistency of opinion ever applied to top gear?
It still looks a complete nail of a car tho . The first pic on this thread is the best looking verrsion I've seen!
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Which school did you test it to/from, Christian?
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Better car
http://www.audi.co.uk/newcars/range....models/allroad
Also a better car
http://www.volvocars.co.uk/Showroom/XC70/
http://www.audi.co.uk/newcars/range....models/allroad
Also a better car
http://www.volvocars.co.uk/Showroom/XC70/
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Originally Posted by angrynorth
Better car
http://www.audi.co.uk/newcars/range....models/allroad
Also a better car
http://www.volvocars.co.uk/Showroom/XC70/
http://www.audi.co.uk/newcars/range....models/allroad
Also a better car
http://www.volvocars.co.uk/Showroom/XC70/
obvious really what these town 4x4s are for. for people who do not like people carriers! that is why we are looking at them.
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Originally Posted by stevencotton
But they carry less people than a people carrier, so what's the deal?
Range rovers are my pet hate car. All driven by d!cks!
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Remind me again why people CHOOSE to want a car like a X3/X5/Jeep/etc, when :
1) They don't handle as well as a non-jeep thing
2) They offer no more interior space than a non-jeep thing.
3) They are slower than a non-jeep thing
4) They roll a lot
5) They guzzle more fuel
6) They cost more than a non-jeep thing
7) Tyre roar
So, what is the advantage?
1) They don't handle as well as a non-jeep thing
2) They offer no more interior space than a non-jeep thing.
3) They are slower than a non-jeep thing
4) They roll a lot
5) They guzzle more fuel
6) They cost more than a non-jeep thing
7) Tyre roar
So, what is the advantage?
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Originally Posted by TheManOnTheStreet
Remind me again why people CHOOSE to want a car like a X3/X5/Jeep/etc, when :
1) They don't handle as well as a non-jeep thing
2) They offer no more interior space than a non-jeep thing.
3) They are slower than a non-jeep thing
4) They roll a lot
5) They guzzle more fuel
6) They cost more than a non-jeep thing
7) Tyre roar
So, what is the advantage?
1) They don't handle as well as a non-jeep thing
2) They offer no more interior space than a non-jeep thing.
3) They are slower than a non-jeep thing
4) They roll a lot
5) They guzzle more fuel
6) They cost more than a non-jeep thing
7) Tyre roar
So, what is the advantage?
The Cayenne Turbo is powered by a 4.5-liter twin-turbo Cayenne V8. Maximum power of 450 hp is obtained at 6,000 rpm, preceded by 460 lb-ft of torque all the way from 2,250 to 4,750 rpm. With Tiptronic S, the Cayenne Turbo takes just 5.6 seconds to reach 62 mph with a top track speed of 165 mph.
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agree with the above...after looking at jeeps/ml's/etc/etc we ended up with a galaxy V6.
friends just got the volvo 7 seater and in comparison the ford is faster, roomy, handles better and better equiped with leather captains chairs all round, twin aircon system satnav, etc.
black with black tints in looks like a SWAT van as well which is cool when hustling through town! Black van man comin through!
friends just got the volvo 7 seater and in comparison the ford is faster, roomy, handles better and better equiped with leather captains chairs all round, twin aircon system satnav, etc.
black with black tints in looks like a SWAT van as well which is cool when hustling through town! Black van man comin through!
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Originally Posted by TheManOnTheStreet
Remind me again why people CHOOSE to want a car like a X3/X5/Jeep/etc, when :
1) They don't handle as well as a non-jeep thing
2) They offer no more interior space than a non-jeep thing.
3) They are slower than a non-jeep thing
4) They roll a lot
5) They guzzle more fuel
6) They cost more than a non-jeep thing
7) Tyre roar
So, what is the advantage?
1) They don't handle as well as a non-jeep thing
2) They offer no more interior space than a non-jeep thing.
3) They are slower than a non-jeep thing
4) They roll a lot
5) They guzzle more fuel
6) They cost more than a non-jeep thing
7) Tyre roar
So, what is the advantage?
1). My missus's Disco with ACE behaves impecably, handles very well in most situations, even in the twisties
2). 7 Seats, so there is more space than my old scoob, not unless of course i prised a few into the boot
3). Not all 4x4s are slouches, Cayenne etc, Toerag (but you do not really buy them for the speed)
4). See my 1st point, computerised body roll control
5). The Disco uses on average 30 mpg (2.5 5 cylinder TD), my Scoob averaged 22 (2.0 4 cylinder petrol quaffer)
6). Entry level 4x4s prices are comparable to a scoob/top end vectra /saabura
7). Exhaust roar that totally drowns out the radio and blows the eardrums of those in the back of my old UK300
Horses for courses, why did we buy rally replica's then
Cheers
Jim
p.s. Do think the X3 is a monstrosity and my wifes Disco has the appeal of a house brick
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Why do people whinge about people that own 4x4's and never take them off road. If someone likes a car then thats their choice surely. As for saying '' go buy a land rover'' - why? they look completely sh1te, agricultural piles of toss if you ask me.
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
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Originally Posted by Scooby96
As for saying '' go buy a land rover'' - why? they look completely sh1te, agricultural piles of toss if you ask me.
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
Hummer, not only impactical, but likely to attract attention from insurgents and no doubt has the same build quality and finish of all american goods, shoddy with very little attention to detail
Cheers
Jim
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Originally Posted by Scooby96
Why do people whinge about people that own 4x4's and never take them off road. If someone likes a car then thats their choice surely. As for saying '' go buy a land rover'' - why? they look completely sh1te, agricultural piles of toss if you ask me.
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
A Landy may be "an agricultural pile of toss" to you but it will beat most off roaders when it is driven off road where it belongs. By the same token, people are entitled to their opinion of other cars as you have ably demonstrated.
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A Landy may be "an agricultural pile of toss" to you but it will beat most off roaders when it is driven off road where it belongs.
As for saying '' go buy a land rover'' - why? they look completely sh1te, agricultural piles of toss if you ask me.
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
If I could afford it I'd buy a Hummer - far less pratical than an X5/X3 but so what!
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"People usually complain about Chelsea Tractor owners because they are so obviously buying into an image that it's hard not to criticise."
bear in mind you are on a forum where a scooby doo toy in "for sale" would go in seconds........not sure you shuld moan about ppl buying into a daft image
bear in mind you are on a forum where a scooby doo toy in "for sale" would go in seconds........not sure you shuld moan about ppl buying into a daft image
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another scoobynet slagging off session of stereotyping people by what car they own
I had a BMW before the scoob, so does that mean when I got a scoob I wasn't an arsehole of a BMW driver? Perhaps it meant I turned into a chav boy racing piece of scum by having a scoob?
FFS grow up you lot about what cars people have meaning what sort of person they are
I had a BMW before the scoob, so does that mean when I got a scoob I wasn't an arsehole of a BMW driver? Perhaps it meant I turned into a chav boy racing piece of scum by having a scoob?
FFS grow up you lot about what cars people have meaning what sort of person they are