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Old 24 June 2004, 10:45 AM
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Exclamation FAO anyone who has read Allen Carr's book - Urgent I feel like throwing my ...

..**** in the bin now but I'm not even half way through the book!! I just want to stand over the bin and snap them one by one!

Should I keep smoking and finish the book or do I chuck them and read the book anyway? I really don't want to continue smoking them as I have just been for a smoke and I didn't enjoy it at all, I feel ILL. I stink like an ashtray and have a disgusting taste in my mouth.

I want to do it right. I am torn and desperately want to get to the end of the book so I can stop!!

HELP!!!
Old 24 June 2004, 10:48 AM
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Keep reading....it DOES work - what did we tell you?
Old 24 June 2004, 10:49 AM
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However, if you feel like throwing them in the bin now, why not do so.....
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Yeah, but what do I do with the 17 **** I have left? Do I really have to keep smoking them?

I stink, off downstairs to buy a packet of polos!
Old 24 June 2004, 10:51 AM
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I don't want to bugger it up so maybe I should keep smoking them!
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Not sure. Since I have never smoked, I didn't read a lot of the book....must read it all the way through sometime...

Does he say to keep smoking until you've finished the book?????
Old 24 June 2004, 10:53 AM
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Don't throw them away - Have one if you want one until you have finished the book. If you really don't want one then don't force yourself, but chances are that you will be dying for one in the morning until you have the full gameplan
Old 24 June 2004, 10:56 AM
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Cheers fb I was about to phone their clinic! Having a bit of a mad one. I'm getting quite excited. I might pull a sickie tomorrow just so I can read the rest of the book! Damn work is getting in the way!
Old 24 June 2004, 11:05 AM
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Drama drama!!
Old 24 June 2004, 11:08 AM
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Where can i get this book. Does it really work?
Old 24 June 2004, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sherlock
Where can i get this book. Does it really work?
It isn't a magic wand. It will work for some and not for others. I must have a read sometime to see what the fuss is all about.
Old 24 June 2004, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
It isn't a magic wand. It will work for some and not for others.
Fair one i realise that but who is the bloke?
Old 24 June 2004, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sherlock
Fair one i realise that but who is the bloke?
Amazing what Google turns up...http://www.allencarrseasyway.com/
Old 24 June 2004, 11:21 AM
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my missus read it about 8 times. it did help her, but she would always start having the "odd one" here and there. in the end she went to hypontherapist and never smoked again. i read the book out of curiosity. it basically incourages you to change the way you think about smoking; away from the idea that a smoke is a pleasurable treat.
Old 24 June 2004, 11:41 AM
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Stopping smoking is down to changing your mind set, staying off cigarettes is down to will power and or a life style change.

Had a quick read of his intro, he makes some interesting points, but he is playing with you, to get you to draw the conclusions that he wants. If that works for you then that's fine. I suspect if you are open minded and accept what he says without too much thought then the book would be highly effective. If you start to question his logic, it may be less effective.

His example: Stress and Bordem are opposites. Absolutely correct, he then infers that this is why smoking cannot help in both cases it does not make sense.

I am not condoning smoking here, but there is no reason why the same activity cannot help you when you are in different emotional states.

As a little example - what would you do (as a non smoker) if you were stressed?? Go to the gym maybe to work out the fustration, read a book or watch TV to take your mind of the stress situation? You may of course just sit there and do nothing.

Now what about if you are bored?? You may go to the gym to work out and meet up with friends, you may entertain yourself by watching TV or reading a book, or indeed you may do nothing an remain bored.

A given emotional state does not have only one activity that can change that emotional state, nor does the fact that something works to change one state mean it does not work for another.

I haven't read up on the guy, but I suspect that he has some degree of pyschological background and has found a very clever way to stop people smoking, by clever use of explanation and dis-connected examples. Fair play to the guy, hope the quitting goes well eClaire, hope I haven't shattered the bubble!!
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Drama drama!!
You're only jealous I am finally doing it and you aren't! It might be a 'drama' but it is something I really want to do and need help with. I'll be fcuked if I am going to listen to your belittling comments time and time again telling me I can't do it when I can. I have no more time for people like you.

I recommend the book. It makes sense to me as a smoker and I really do actually want to stop now. It shows smoking for what it really is.
Old 24 June 2004, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by eClaire
I really do actually want to stop now
Good for you eClaire. I think the above sentence is the key though, if the book has helped you get to that point then great.
Old 24 June 2004, 11:56 AM
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Go for it, whatever it takes. As far as i can see, there is precisely ZERO upside to smoking.
Old 24 June 2004, 11:59 AM
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Good luck with it! Hope it works
Old 24 June 2004, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Go for it, whatever it takes. As far as i can see, there is precisely ZERO upside to smoking.
I dunno the exchequor seems to do OK out of it, now is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Old 24 June 2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sherlock
Where can i get this book. Does it really work?
There's nothing magic about it at all. All it does is tell you what any reasonably intelligent person already knows.
Perhaps the biggest reason so many people swear by it is because, by and large, smokers will tend to push to the back of their mind all the things this book brings up.
Old 24 June 2004, 12:16 PM
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There's nothing magic about it at all. All it does is tell you what any reasonably intelligent person already knows.
Perhaps the biggest reason so many people swear by it is because, by and large, smokers will tend to push to the back of their mind all the things this book brings up.
True

If you do want it, you can get it from any large bookstore!
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You're only jealous I am finally doing it and you aren't! It might be a 'drama' but it is something I really want to do and need help with. I'll be fcuked if I am going to listen to your belittling comments time and time again telling me I can't do it when I can. I have no more time for people like you.
PMSL

Good luck
Old 24 June 2004, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CEL
Good luck
Thank you.
Old 24 June 2004, 12:47 PM
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Finish reading the book

No matter how boring and repetative he may become

There's nothing magic about it at all. All it does is tell you what any reasonably intelligent person already knows.
Yes it's basic psychology ..... but IMHO .... It removes the fear and puts you in a positive enough frame of mind to make you actually want to commit to stopping. For me (having smoked for 21 years ) this was the most important bit.

Claire

Keep the book handy for the foreseeable future as weak moments will occur

Caution....You are flying high at the moment but you can still easily be caught out once the novelty of stopping has worn off

Good luck
Old 24 June 2004, 01:03 PM
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Yay SiPie!

I will keep you posted!!
Old 24 June 2004, 01:10 PM
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I'd already stopped when I read the book - Him indoors decided we were stopping and that was it! Keep the **** til you are done, in fact I gave away the last few "security" packs months later! I've been clean since april 03! And when you do get the urge to have one do something else for 5 mins, the urge goes away. (my cafine intake increased!!! :-)

Good luck, and if I can do it, anyone can!
Old 24 June 2004, 01:45 PM
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i used his book and found it great, i now really dislike spending time with smokers as it is a vile habbit. whatever you do, follow his instructions.

chapter 24 or 25 "reasons to smoke" is my favourite.
Old 24 June 2004, 01:59 PM
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PS The only gaping hole in the book is the chapter that should cover giving up smoking when you have a bad dope smoking habit

Different ball game entirely .... (allegedly )
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LOL

Seems like this is the right way to go then.. He does babble on a bit though. I am dying to get to the instructions!


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