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Old 30 April 2004, 08:43 PM
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Read it on teletext news the other day. Said all co2 powered guns were banned and should be handed into policce stations or apply for a firearms licence.

How do you apply for a firearms licence and what would entitle you to have one?

I paid £150 for my airgun not to long ago and it seems unfair to have to hand it into a police station. Wouldn't mind if they would give me what I paid for it.
Old 30 April 2004, 08:47 PM
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I thought it was self contained cartridge pistols like the Brockock revolvers that were being banned? They use compressed air, not CO2.
Old 30 April 2004, 08:48 PM
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Not all Co2 guns, for more info see here ....

https://secweb1.pipemedia.net/uttings/index.cfm

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Old 30 April 2004, 08:49 PM
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or to make it quicker....

IMPORTANT NOTICE
The government has announced that from January 20th 2004, it will become illegal to purchase, acquire, manufacture, sell or transfer any weapon that uses a Self Containted Gas Cartridge (SCGC) system. (i.e. Brocock, Uberti, Pietta, Saxby&Palmer and Crown).

If you own such a weapon, you will have 3 choices.

a) hand your gun into the police for destruction with no compensation.

b) apply for a Firearms Certificate (FAC) from the Firearms Enquiry Officer at your regional constabulary. This costs approximately £50 for 5 years. (if you already own an FAC, you can apply to your regional constabulary for a variation, which will allow you to keep such weapons in your posession. This costs apporximately £26 and is valid for the period up to the date of your renewal).

c) have your weapon deactivated by an authorised dealer. This will cost approximately £50.

A three month 'implementation period' will commence on the 20th January 2004 to allow you to comply with the legislation - if you have done neither of the above and are caught in possesion of a SCGC weapon, you will be committing a serious offence and are likely to face a minimum five year jail sentence (under the Criminal Justice Act 2003).

The three month 'implementation' period finishes on the 30th April 2004 , so you will have until this date to make your application for an FAC or FAC variation. The government has also stated that no offence will be committed where someone has applied for a certificate or variation before the 30th April 2004 and their application remains outstanding or is the subject of an outstanding appeal.

N.B. The above does not apply to weapons that use a Co2 bulb system because Co2 bulbs do not contain a projectile and are therefore not completely self-contatined.
Old 30 April 2004, 08:52 PM
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Deffo not, checked my Air Arms S400 in and its perfectly legit. Its ony guns like the Brockock pistol with air cartriges.
Old 30 April 2004, 09:24 PM
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Thanks guys. Just checked mine and its okay.

Whats the law with regards to transporting them? Do they have to be unloaded, in a case, in the boot etc?

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Old 30 April 2004, 09:27 PM
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Well I deffo wouldnt carry any gun loaded, air gun or not, thats asking for trouble that is.
Old 30 April 2004, 09:32 PM
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not yet im sure , im a gunner myself
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Originally Posted by Jye
Well I deffo wouldnt carry any gun loaded, air gun or not, thats asking for trouble that is.
exactly what I was thinking?
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logun sweet s-16 here i come the king of guns
Old 30 April 2004, 09:39 PM
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I always carry my handguns out of sight in the car even the rig.
And make a point of when I get them out at home that the curtains are drawn. just be sensible I suppose
What kind of handgun stuff do you do. Practical pistol or more target orientated sport stuff.
My personal favourite is the sig225 has a nice grip for an average hand.
Also quite like the Barettas but find them a bit big. CZs and PPKs are others I have I quite liked.
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It is very very tight over here already. For example
In France you just need an address to own a gun. In Switzerland many people have guns, so there are very few bank robberies as the bad guys know they will get sloted by most of the customers!
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airguns mate im saving up for a logun s16


and their is another new pistol out i forgot what its called but the laser is actually in the scope as in a red dot

it comes in camoflage or black

its a beauty it has a silencer too like out a arnie movie
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i have a pic of it somewhere with all its glory and gun lamps and laser etc

http://www.openukonline.com/logun.htm


kill more bunnies than ever and eat them afterwards
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Old 30 April 2004, 09:49 PM
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So you gonna be up in hills with a camo net over over you when you get it

Seriously - looks like a nice bit of kit.

Steve
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it is mate sniping is the way and ifu get it from j r ramsbottom he sells the kit 200 less than anyone

they all do the whole kit for 700 he does it for 480


2 mags, scope, bag and tripod


and im gonna start again i didnt have time last yr

logun is good its a take down so u can take it apart


and sniping here i come

im gonna go for shooting lessons for pheasants end of the yr and apply for my rifle

but puts me off coz i have a kid in the house and even then with a metal safe still aint safe enough
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Just hide the air the ammo and gun in seperate places.

Practical pistol is my thing. Concealed carry, room clearance, vehicle stuff etc. So more instinctive shooting not so much looking down a sight. I can see the appeal in sniping, some of the lads I train with are excellent army trained snipers, I should get them to show me but have never got round to it.

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Old 30 April 2004, 10:06 PM
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im gonna go for shooting lessons for pheasants end of the yr and apply for my rifle
err... good luck applying for a rifle on a section 1 FC for pheasant shooting! lol!
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steve all the best to u too mate im a member of this club


http://www.basc.org.uk/content/home


lol shotgun ajm for a pheasant and a rifle for the deer i will try pheasant first

prob with me is i need to hunt alone kosher/halal style so i can make my food kosher , i say my prayers before i shoot
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S16 have loads of problems Moses. You best get on my BBS and we'll tell you some better ones!!

http://www.zeroed.co.uk

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You best get on my BBS and we'll tell you some better ones!!
No that bbs has nothing in the way of guns. go to the airgun bbs, they have all the info m8.
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nevetas is right loguns had probs with the air container or whatever its called it was leaking but they replaced it and it comes with a warranty and i read some bbs's and they were replaced straight away but still the best in the market though

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Originally Posted by corvid
No that bbs has nothing in the way of guns. go to the airgun bbs, they have all the info m8.
?? It's a shooting BBS sponsored by a airgun shop, noooo nothing in the way of guns aye

Oh and I don't run a shooting business ?!??!?!

U WHAT!
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My work colleague got shot at by an airgun while cycling to work the other day. Turns out someone else got shot at on 4 occassions last year on the same route.

I'd say licensing them seems sensible....never understood why airguns were exempt from firearm laws??? It is a gun after all....and it can cause damage can it not?
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So they're not banned.

ajm heaves a huge sigh of relief as he nearly sees one of his hobbies disappear (you know what I mean )

tiggers.
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Originally Posted by moses
nevetas is right loguns had probs with the air container or whatever its called it was leaking but they replaced it and it comes with a warranty and i read some bbs's and they were replaced straight away but still the best in the market though

cheers
Have you checked out the logun gladiator coming out?
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Originally Posted by imlach
I'd say licensing them seems sensible....never understood why airguns were exempt from firearm laws??? It is a gun after all....and it can cause damage can it not?
Serously doubt that will happen at the moment TBH.
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?? It's a shooting BBS sponsored by a airgun shop, noooo nothing in the way of guns aye

Oh and I don't run a shooting business ?!??!?!

U WHAT!
airgun bbs has info on AIRGUNS the bbs u mention is a bbs for whoring and has no decent information on guns.

anyway i dont give a **** m8, i was only telling moses the place to go for the best info.
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Originally Posted by Nevetas
Serously doubt that will happen at the moment TBH.
...so I ask again, why has it not been done up until now?

Are airguns capable of killing people? Or even injuring? If so, they should be licensed. They can be used from afar with a chance the operator is concealed/hidden. Seems outrageous.
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whoring??? I think you will find that if you post a question you'll get an answer. Your the ***** MO FO!


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