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Old 20 April 2004, 08:27 AM
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What do you all think of that new incentive by the Government? The one which involves paying a pocket money for children to attend school! I'm sorry, but to me this is such an abuse of tax payers money.

This is surely promoting sponging off the government at a young age, and why the **** should us tax payers have to pay for other peoples children to go to school.

If that wasn't enough, apparently the amount given is between £10 and £30 which is dependant on the income of the parents! I mean ffs! income related taxes etc are a big pet hate for me at the best of times! but this takes the biscuit...

I know when I went to school I never skipped class...I think I had 1 day off throughout my school career and that was because I was really ill! it's split between the parents and the children...nobody else should be involved!

any thoughts?

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Old 20 April 2004, 08:33 AM
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How about they fine kids for not going???
Old 20 April 2004, 08:37 AM
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just another nonsense *initiative* in a desperate bid to buy votes.
Old 20 April 2004, 08:39 AM
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Hello

Do you have a link for a news story on that?

I think it's ridiculous. The money should be allocated to the schools for better facilities and equipment.

It's much better to fine children (parents) who do not go to school.

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schools are becoming little more than state run child minding service in any case.
Old 20 April 2004, 08:41 AM
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Steve... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3633227.stm
Old 20 April 2004, 08:42 AM
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A bit strange that the recipients can't vote........yet !
Long term attempt at buying votes ?

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Old 20 April 2004, 08:45 AM
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Hello

Thanks for the link.

That's a little better:

More than a third of a million 16 year olds are being asked to apply for cash payments to stay in education ...... The UK has one of the highest rates for leaving school at 16 in the developed world.
England has a terrible reputation for having under-educated people. And to a certain extent it is not so bad to offer some incentive to stay at school after 16 and not have so much pressure to go and work to bring in cash to (probably) eat. Having said that, haven't they ever heard of weekend jobs....

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fair point dunk. however, the chancellor will get most of the money back when the brats spend it on **** in the corner shop.
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When I say fine the kids I mean get an attachment to the parents benefits and deduct £5 per day the kids dont go - I bet that would cut truancy by 90%
Old 20 April 2004, 09:09 AM
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It is approaching the problem from the diametrically opposite direction that they should do.

Children are increasingly being treated in such a way that they believe that the world owes them a living and all they have to do is to stand back and let everyone give them what they want. Talk about spoiling the child!

The problem gets worse of course when when they leave school and suddenly find that it is time they did something for themselves for a change. This is when they find that their elders have failed them in preparing them for independently coping with life.

Les
Old 20 April 2004, 09:15 AM
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it's not all bad: a friend of mine has a 17 year old daughter. at quite a young age she decided that she wouldn't take pocket money from her parents. first she started ironing my shirts, at the rate of £1 per shirt. now she has expanded her business to include cleaning my house once a week, for which she gets £30, and also has had various part time jobs in shops and restaurants. she has been in full time education all the time. pity more kids don't have that much backbone.
Old 20 April 2004, 09:53 AM
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Education is fantastic & ought to be encouraged, but in order that society functions you need a balance of skills, otherwise you'll have an abundance of chiefs & no indians (or cowboy plumbers)

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Old 20 April 2004, 10:38 AM
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A bit strange that the recipients can't vote........yet !
Long term attempt at buying votes ?
Ahh but the government are also looking at reducing the voting age to 16 - it all fits together now!
Old 20 April 2004, 11:38 AM
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so you can leave school for a life on the dole at 37 quid a week or stay at school and get 30 quid a week - keeping you off the dole queue and the jobless numbers down - its seems the same type of thing as cutting JSA after 6 months - after that you are no longer unemployed, but get income support instead
Old 20 April 2004, 12:43 PM
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attendance bonus...

just goes to show what a nanny state we live in,,,

as we cannot chastise our little darlings anymore or use any legal methods to get them to go we resort to bribery!!

question is who pays.....


erm we do

once again tb and his numptys are screwing us over!!!


bring back a bit of discipline and teach them that respect is applied to your elders not the bros!

mart
Old 20 April 2004, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Ahh but the government are also looking at reducing the voting age to 16 - it all fits together now!
Yep! And they know the little oiks will spend it all on ciggies so more tax inthe coffers too!
Old 20 April 2004, 09:11 PM
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Pay 'em to encourage 'em to stay on at school, then lower the A-level standards so the can easily get to University - thus they generate huge debts with their fees, so they can't afford a house until their mid-thirties and thus the housing boom is sorted.

...or insert many other scenarios

The term social engineering springs to mind

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