MadGrip

Got pulled over this evening about my reg plates and have to get an MOT station to stamp one of the forms I have after I've put my "legal" plates back on..


now.. if I get the stamp from the MOT place and then put my not so legal plates back on, what happens if I get pulled again ??

BTW havent coppers owt better to do than worry about no. plates?

MG

Maddy

Sorry to hear that mate there out to spoil innocent motorists fun, makes me sick as some people don't even have insurance, a tax disc or even a registerd plate and get away scott free.

Worse that could happen if you get caught again I assume is 3 points and a fine.

Maddy

chrisp

and if its a private plate they can take it off you.

M0NEY

I got stopped twice in one week.

They said they cant give you points.

Second time i got a £30 fine as they said basically i hadnt listend the first time (it was like 2 days later and the new plates were on order).

They told me the worst they can do is a £1000 fine for incorrect letter sizing, spacing

talizman

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Madgrip,

The Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme is in place to avoid motorists being fined for minor defects.

The scheme gives you the opportunity to "recify" the defects without getting to the stage where you get done.

To answer your question....

If you comply with the scheme and return your slip, duly stamped by MOT garage, the report is filed and effectively forgotten about.

The only way you would get into bother for putting your "defective" plates back on, is if the same copper pulls you again and thinks...
"Wait a minute, I've already given you a defect slip and here you are, taking the pi$$. I'll just charge you this time, no more chances to 'recify'"

Hypothetically, this is the only way that things would come back on you.

If this does happen, you'll find that in the cop's report to the CPS/PF, he will detail how he gave you ample opportunity to recify the plates, but you kept pi$$ing in the face of the law! Hence making your fine higher than it would have been in the first instance.

Hope this clarifys.

MadGrip

yep that clears things up..

however I was thinking about using "dual lock" (industrial like velcro stuff..very strong) if i decided to put my plates back on and also keep mt "legal" plates in the boot and if i got pulled it'd be "sorry orificer, just been to a show/shootout/whatever & forgot to change back to my legal plates, give me a second and I'll put them back on..."


would this pass ???

STEVECHAPS

Madgrip, it worked 4 me with Skipton Plod

-=Buzz=-

hard luck Phil

See you Monday maybe, @ Buckles?

f1

now this might sound like a rant, but here goes. It's all well and good have 'fancy' plates on but, how would you feel if somebody with these plates had an accident with you/someone you know and didn't stop, just drove off. Their fancyplates mean that you cannot get the reg. number, therefore they get away with it scott free. Now obviously I don't know what your plates look like, and not having ago, somebody pointed this problem out to me a while back and up unitl that point I'd not thought of it like that. I've been their had dodgy plates etc. But now I think, yeah fair point I'd hate it if I needed to read a plate and couldn't therefore it made me as bad as them. Now drive with just standard legal text plates on for my reasons mentioned above.

I'm sure I'll regret putting this up, but hey only my opinion !!

pappasmurf

Haven't been stopped in the six months i've had an 'illegal' front plate. Had a copper even give my Scoob a good stare...He saw my plate and i thourght that was it, but he did nothing...too busy cathching robbers i guess or just liked the car.
However, if i do pass coppers going in the other direction i tend to leg it so there's no way they will catch up if they turn around to nab me
I like the idea of industrial velcro on the original plate kept in the boot.

smurfy.

pappasmurf

...what about the front splitters that have a space for a stick on number plate. I think they may look quite good, leaving the lower vent clear of any number plate. Has anyone got any pictures?

smurfy.

MadGrip

I couldnt agree more with what you say F1, however I think you refer to the skinny italic unreadable lettering.

The plates i have , have got VERY bold letters on and can be read at a far greater distance than probably normal plates can.I chose this font as I thought maybe they would let it go if I ever got pulled is it is very readable from a distance.

but I guess either he didnt get his leg over the night before , was a sucker for paper work or maybe scared of real crooks that mite hurt him

R11CH T

I didn't get pulled as such but the old bill followed me(and my illegal Plate) to the golf course car park and he said that they didn't mind dodgy plates as it makes it easier for them to spot!!!

f1

must admit Madgrip, some plates are easier to read. Should've put that in my post, sorry. Some of these italic plates you can't even read standing in front of it.

yoza

You should get a £30 fine and a photograph from a proper jobsworth.

He then crawls back under his stone, and posts it off to the DVLA.

The DVLA log this serious crime, and if you meet anymore jobs- worths they go through the same proceedure.

Then down at the DVLAs serious crime room, if you are found to have three photos of the same plate in a none DVLA friendly manor. They have the power to take it from you, and issue you with a standard plate.

In the meantime there have been 12 robberies, 8 assaults, 1 armed robbery, 23 burgularies, 1200 thefts from cars, 5 cars taken WOC, and one cat stuck up a tree.

PS. The cat was fine, or should I say FINED.

Later Yoza

PPS. May be a bit of a personal question, but anyway TALIZMAN are you a copper?

Franko

Sorry to hear about that mate
I think the idea of using velcro is pretty cool as long as the copper aint having a bad day he should let you off

talizman

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In my experience of "illegal" plates on Scoobs, I've always found that the following is usually the case....

"illegal" usually means slightly undersized as opposed to unreadable fonts like some of the Max Power brigade.

The font is usually pretty much legal but the plate has been shrunk for aesthetics or airflow.

Like mine!

And Yoza... Yes.

yoza

Nice to see Im not losing my touch, finely honed talent I have.

I looked at your Martial Arts site, saw your picture and immediately knew.

Keep up the good work.

talizman

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lol! A jobsworth like me?

m18use

Shame the police have nothing better to do lazy *unts
Its a no plate whats the problem ,i get stopped weekly and dont give a ****,If you get your car broken into you get OH well it happens,to55ers

yoza

I work in a factory.

There are 3000 odd employees.

Most are professional, normal, fair, and sound of mind.

Some are not!

Its the same with every organisation.

If you get my drift.

Anyway I digress, sorry to highjack the thread.

Phil Harrison

Ah, but you've missed the point!

It a) tends to foul up cameras, and hence the revenue flow, and
b) probably screws the Automatic Number Plate Readers which, in due course, will give big brother the capability of determining exactly who went where, when, on a National 365/24 basis. It's called 'social control' - Be afraid..... very afraid!

It is, therefore, high on the Government's priority list and doubtless the reason for specific regulation in this area.

IMHO, of course!!

Phil

talizman

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mi8use...
The problem is, like F1 highlighted in his post above, with regards to being unable to identify a car due to illegal plates.

As for them being to$$ers......

Sweeping generalisations galore, but allow me to re-butt.

The Police Service in general is representative of society, as it is members of society who make up the police force, yes?

Due to this, you are unavoidably going to get some ********, some arrogant guys, some lazy gits, some dishonest w4nkers, etc etc regardless....

On the other side of the coin, you get plenty of decent, honest, hardworking guys who take no greater pleasure than locking up thieving scumbags.

In fact, the police force is a lot like ScoobyNet in that ScoobyNet is representative of the Subaru owners community and the Police Force is representative of society.

The Police have some ******** from our "society".

ScoobyNet has heaps of ******** from the Subaru community!

There are plenty of them on here as we all know!

f1

agree with the above. I don't think it's a waste of time pulling for illegible plates, as I stated earlier, what if ???

m18use

But theres is lots of people committing crime
But what do the police do,sod all springs to mind
Sorry just think thet are useless *unts with no life

talizman

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Be afraid? Perhaps.... if you have something to be afraid about.

The ANPR (Automated Number Plate Recognition) system is fantastic....

For the simple reason that as soon as a "flagged" vehicle passes it, the driver is immediately detected.

This could be for a number of reasons, namely...
1) Disqualified driver
2) Persistent drunk driver
3) No licence
4) No insurance
5) No tax (possibly no insurance either then)
And getting away from the Road Traffic issues, it can be used to detect the following for example.....
6) Suspect of serious crime known to use a particular vehicle.

I'm pretty sure that if someone ran into your Scoob and the driver fell under the category 1 - 5, you'd be pretty grateful for the police apprehending them!

Big Brother? Bring it on.... I've nothing to hide.

talizman

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Typically uninformed and ignorant opinions, as has become the norm on SN unfortunately.

m18use

Someones tired
Are you a useless policeman by any chance

Spoon

You're not bad most of the time Talizman, don't be too hard on yourself.

As for the plates issue. Why not just conform and let the fuzz get on with catching criminals instead of knowingly being illegal and inciting a pull?

I think it's a petty issue but it's for the camera recognition's sake and whilst they are breeding the law will be enforced.

talizman

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Not tired.

Just bored of the same old patter, thats all.

Thanks Spoon