^Qwerty^

Got four new tyres last weekend. Garage says it can't repair it.

Redkop

Probably because it impinges onto the wall of the tyre I have had this happen before too.

Brun

Unlucky

yoza

Bummer or what.

Such a little thing, but can cost you a night out!

flat4

leave it in and get some of that tyre slime stuff worked for me a few times

Turtle Soup

Find a tyre dealer who can send it away for a major repair, it will cost more than a puncture repair, but less than a new tyre.

Nick

Brun

Would anybody trust a major repair like that? I didn't know such a repair was avaiable

CHRIS_D

had the same thing happen to me 6 months ago....but worse, twice in one day

had to get two new tyres - no one would touch it

chris

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Burnout practice ?

carl

Yep, you can have them sent away to be vulcanized. Should be as good as a new tyre then.

I managed to get my local tyre dealer to lend me a part-worn in the interim so I didn't have to drive round for a week on the space saver.

Corgi

My local independant tyre dealer will vulcanize while you wait, although it does take a while, i've had it done a few times and works fine.

Pete The Biker

I thought it was illegal to repair within a certain distance of the shoulder (something like an inch or less)?

You couldnt have got much closer to the shoulder if you had tried!!


Pete The Biker

rr_ww

You cannot repair Z rated tyres. Its illegal.


Obviously the nail is too close to the sidewall for the mushroom shaped puncture repair thing to work.

Keep it as a spare, and make sure you check its pressures every week or so.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Sorry, that tyre looks beyond repair, Manufacturers wouldn't even touch it.

Plus if it was repaired I'd consider it lethal...that tyre is rated to 150mph, There is NO way you could guarantee the structure of the tyre would remain intact at that load/speed. It's not just the hole in the rubber, its the steel/nylon belts that will be compromised too. And being so close to the side wall - where there is little re-inforcemant its just not worth risking.

Edit: Just noticed they're not ZZ1's - sorry

[Edited by ALi-B - 11/9/2003 4:12:49 PM]

carl

What a load of ****. Most places reckon on you not having more than 2 mushroom-shaped repairs on a Z-rated tyre. It's possible to have 3 on a non Z-rated tyre.

Vulcanization is how they make tyres. If you have a tyre vulcanized (major repair) it should be as good as new.

rr_ww

Carl. Heres a link to asite supported by Dunlop.

http://www.driveradviser.com/tyre/faqMotor.shtml#q5

I know its specific to bikes, but Im 90% sure its the same rules.

carl

Bikes are not the same at all. Bikes have round cross-section tyres (like old crossplies) whereas car tyres are square in cross-section. The methods of construction are completely different (because you're expected to run on the sidewalls on a bike, but if you're doing it in a car it usually means you're crashing).

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Not true entirely...a puncture, can damage the integrity of the steal/nylon belts (thus why there is alimit to the number of repairs that can be done to the same tyre). Also the speed rating on the tyre no longer applies...as the speed rating is now dictated by the repair. So a repaired "z" rated tyre will no longer be capable of withstanding speeds of 150mph.

I've driven a car where one of the belts within the tyre has desitegrated, and to say the least the handling of the car was severly compromised. Curiously, the car had a "manufactures repaired" tyre, but I couldn't remember which tyre was repaired. So I cannot directly state that it was the fact that the tyre was repaired that caused it to fail, but it would seem odd for an undamaged tyre to fail


[Edited by ALi-B - 11/9/2003 3:36:04 PM]

carl

Not true. The sidewalls collapsed on one of the original RE010s on my Scoob -- the tyre was (AFAIK) otherwise undamaged.

My understanding of radials is that the steel carcass bit is mostly in the sidewalls and not in the 'tread' part, so it would be difficult to compromise the integrity if you got a nail through any part of the tread.

FWIW I've had minor (mushroom) and major (vulcanization) repairs done on Z-rated tyres (in fact, W-rated) and suffered no ill effects. I've never had more than one per tyre though (not through choice, it just never worked out like that). YMMV, of course

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

I'm NOT saying you can't repair Z rated, W's or Y's or whatever. You can. Just that under the BS standards (Bull or British - take your pick ) the tyre is no longer able of sustaining the speeds and loading specified.

This in turn means that if the car manufacturers state that such and such tyre needs to be fitted, if that tyre, once repaired no longer conforms to their reccomendations. Then you can run into issues with your insurance, as the tyre is not suitable for the vehicle.

I know - it seems barmy to me too where we can't go over 70mph legally. But there are good reasons for these guidelines to be in place...to prevent us sueing the pants off manufacturers and repairers

edit: slight accidental contridiction


[Edited by ALi-B - 11/9/2003 3:59:31 PM]

AK47

yep schitt happens, I've had this experience once but sliced both front and rear wheels (on one side of the car) on a very sharp piece of road. pot holes [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]