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19 August 2003, 02:59 PM
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Funny this, but I recently told a woman who was holding her young Spaniel aloft from the reach of my OES puppy that she was being a bit silly and that there was no need to panic in the park as the two dogs playfully met. I mentioned that not letting her dog socialise would only lead to problems – particul;arly as mine was a fluff ball puppy and not an aggressive and fully grown ‘hard man’ kinda dog 
So yesterday I got told by a woman not to be neurotic myself and to let her big ugly dominant adult dog play with my ‘pup’! All I did was put mine on a lead as we were about to enter the main road! We had met that dog the previous day and he had mine whimpering in fear as he was so dominant and snappy – that was actually fine by me, as mine needs to learn some dog manners and general dog behaviour rules! I informed the woman that maybe I had actually put my dog on his lead a little early as a caution, but not because of a general state of paranoia. Once I was sure her dog was not overly aggressive (and had this conformed by her) and that there would be no vet’s bills I let him off the lead and let hers further bully, harras, scare and nip mine! All good normal fun – he even pi55ed on his nose!!! Lovely
I just thought she was as bloody dominant and bossy (and ugly – miaw!) as her dog and that she had no business pre-judging me so!
Anyone else come across dog know-it-alls…?
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So yesterday I got told by a woman not to be neurotic myself and to let her big ugly dominant adult dog play with my ‘pup’! All I did was put mine on a lead as we were about to enter the main road! We had met that dog the previous day and he had mine whimpering in fear as he was so dominant and snappy – that was actually fine by me, as mine needs to learn some dog manners and general dog behaviour rules! I informed the woman that maybe I had actually put my dog on his lead a little early as a caution, but not because of a general state of paranoia. Once I was sure her dog was not overly aggressive (and had this conformed by her) and that there would be no vet’s bills I let him off the lead and let hers further bully, harras, scare and nip mine! All good normal fun – he even pi55ed on his nose!!! Lovely
I just thought she was as bloody dominant and bossy (and ugly – miaw!) as her dog and that she had no business pre-judging me so!
Anyone else come across dog know-it-alls…?
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19 August 2003, 04:56 PM
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You do meet some strange owners, It's the knobbers who get rotties, pitbulls, staffies etc as some sort of ***** extension that get me 
* no offence to any genuine owners of those breeds intended
* no offence to any genuine owners of those breeds intended
19 August 2003, 05:17 PM
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Having (now two) Rotties, we suffer the opposite problem
of people running away with their dogs, presumably under some misguided and media charged misconception about what dogs generally are safe and which are not.
Student Bloody Lamo - If you have a problem mate, air it. You are unlikely to win many "friends" on scoobynet with that attitude.
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Having (now two) Rotties, we suffer the opposite problem
of people running away with their dogs, presumably under some misguided and media charged misconception about what dogs generally are safe and which are not.
Student Bloody Lamo - If you have a problem mate, air it. You are unlikely to win many "friends" on scoobynet with that attitude.
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19 August 2003, 05:24 PM
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But yeah, there are some real know it alls about.
I'm quite happy to bring my dog (cos one is just a pup) to heel if someone is uncomfortable with what she is.
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I'm quite happy to bring my dog (cos one is just a pup) to heel if someone is uncomfortable with what she is.
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19 August 2003, 05:25 PM
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I can well believe it Diablo, Rotties are one of the most beautiful and loving dogs you can get 
, but sadly built up a bad reputation.
We've got a retriever at the moment, and collect our GSD at the end of August so I've no doubt I can look forward to some of that
, but sadly built up a bad reputation.We've got a retriever at the moment, and collect our GSD at the end of August so I've no doubt I can look forward to some of that
19 August 2003, 05:30 PM
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We had two OES , after each other, we're now after a pup, but no one seems to be breeding them.. waiting for news on a litter in October.
Our Last one was mahoosive, even though she was a bitch, she used to scare the **** out of some dogs
Our Last one was mahoosive, even though she was a bitch, she used to scare the **** out of some dogs
19 August 2003, 05:42 PM
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Lame Lamo! Maybe you could explain the direct connection here between an STi V and a bl@@dy dog! It's just people chatting here - no big shakes man. I will be interested in what other dog owners have to say cos this bugged me a little bit and no one else I know actually has a dog - go for a nap meantime if you like...
19 August 2003, 06:49 PM
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Diesel,
didnt mention STiV, you asked have we (the Scoobynet audience) come accross know-it-alls about dogs, I say yes, here on scoobynet.
wheres the problem hombre? You asked I answered its a simply two way thing. Ive had my nap, have you got any friends yet ?(with dogs) Do not ask opinion if response may confuse or irrate.
Diablo I have reservations some people`s suitability to be dog owners, sorry I do, there are however many very good responsible dog owners on here offering lots of advice and encouragement for free. Different breeds require very different ownership, a vast majority of it is common to all breeds but with the bigger dogs and more aggressive dogs comes more responsibility. you can very quickly tell suitable owners IMHO.
I could be very wrong, but I might not be.
Student Bloody Lamo.
didnt mention STiV, you asked have we (the Scoobynet audience) come accross know-it-alls about dogs, I say yes, here on scoobynet.
wheres the problem hombre? You asked I answered its a simply two way thing. Ive had my nap, have you got any friends yet ?(with dogs
) Do not ask opinion if response may confuse or irrate.Diablo I have reservations some people`s suitability to be dog owners, sorry I do, there are however many very good responsible dog owners on here offering lots of advice and encouragement for free. Different breeds require very different ownership, a vast majority of it is common to all breeds but with the bigger dogs and more aggressive dogs comes more responsibility. you can very quickly tell suitable owners IMHO.
I could be very wrong, but I might not be.
Student Bloody Lamo.
19 August 2003, 06:50 PM
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OES = Old English Sheepdog
This was ours .. she died recently, we're looking for a pup at the moment,
[Edited by Avi - 8/19/2003 6:52:50 PM]
[Edited by Avi - 8/19/2003 6:53:06 PM]
This was ours .. she died recently, we're looking for a pup at the moment,
[Edited by Avi - 8/19/2003 6:52:50 PM]
[Edited by Avi - 8/19/2003 6:53:06 PM]
19 August 2003, 06:52 PM
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I also appreciate that most good breeders and/or owners are very passionate (and rightly so) about their pets, like members of the family so am expecting a flaming over my response.
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20 August 2003, 08:59 AM
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Wrong choice of words, I think it was Barbera Woodhouse who said there were no bad dogs, just bad owners.
Unless properly trained ANY dog can be an aggressive dog, we have a Toy Poodle (commence laughter now) and he was rescued and came with an attitude problem (commence similarity comparison with owner now), we have since got him to be a lovely natured dog, albeit very grumpy in the morning when he first wakes up.
The aggressive breeds are those dogs perceived by the public as being dangerous, our last dog before our Poodle, some 10 years ago was my brothers Rott, this was back when the first (overly?) heavily reported cases in the media about dogs attacking little-uns, people used to cross the street rather than walk next to Ben, could rarely take him off the lead for some *consciensus* citizen having a right go at us in the parks, became a real nightmare and hardly fair for the dogs in question.
So, dogs perceived as being aggressive would be the trusty Rottweiler, the good ol GSD, Standard Poodles can be a bit nasty, Pinschers got a bad rap after being on Magnum PI, lurchers, staffs, bull terriors, the humble jack russell, you get my drift and my poor choice of wording.
I cannot speak from a wealth of experience, dog ownership for us has been a Lab that lived to 19, a Miniature Poodle that lived to 17, a Rottweiler that is still going strong today (although my brother doesnt live with us anymore) and our little man the Toy Poodle who is 12 and very much lives with us. I speak from my experiences of ownership and the books I have read.
my point (whilst being extremely laboured) was that there are some know-it-alls on here, then expanded that to say that dog ownership is a serious responsibilty, thankfully, you appear to be extremely responsible in the upbringing of your pets, there are some who are not, dont take training seriously and eventually the dog may have to be destroyed. The death of the dog is on their heads because they wanted to be cool and have a tough dog, not knowing the consequences of getting it wrong. Its a Fu*king crime when that happens, a F*CKING CRIME!
Student. (over opinionated as ever).
Unless properly trained ANY dog can be an aggressive dog, we have a Toy Poodle (commence laughter now
) and he was rescued and came with an attitude problem (commence similarity comparison with owner now), we have since got him to be a lovely natured dog, albeit very grumpy in the morning when he first wakes up.The aggressive breeds are those dogs perceived by the public as being dangerous, our last dog before our Poodle, some 10 years ago was my brothers Rott, this was back when the first (overly?) heavily reported cases in the media about dogs attacking little-uns, people used to cross the street rather than walk next to Ben, could rarely take him off the lead for some *consciensus* citizen having a right go at us in the parks, became a real nightmare and hardly fair for the dogs in question.
So, dogs perceived as being aggressive would be the trusty Rottweiler, the good ol GSD, Standard Poodles can be a bit nasty, Pinschers got a bad rap after being on Magnum PI
, lurchers, staffs, bull terriors, the humble jack russell, you get my drift and my poor choice of wording.I cannot speak from a wealth of experience, dog ownership for us has been a Lab that lived to 19, a Miniature Poodle that lived to 17, a Rottweiler that is still going strong today (although my brother doesnt live with us anymore) and our little man the Toy Poodle who is 12 and very much lives with us
. I speak from my experiences of ownership and the books I have read.my point (whilst being extremely laboured) was that there are some know-it-alls on here, then expanded that to say that dog ownership is a serious responsibilty, thankfully, you appear to be extremely responsible in the upbringing of your pets, there are some who are not, dont take training seriously and eventually the dog may have to be destroyed. The death of the dog is on their heads because they wanted to be cool and have a tough dog, not knowing the consequences of getting it wrong. Its a Fu*king crime when that happens, a F*CKING CRIME!
Student. (over opinionated as ever).
20 August 2003, 09:01 AM
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Avi,
That is one gorgeous dog there, I think the british public will always have a soft spot for a *dulux* dog.
Im not very good with dogs dying, cry like a baby for days
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That is one gorgeous dog there, I think the british public will always have a soft spot for a *dulux* dog.
Im not very good with dogs dying, cry like a baby for days
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20 August 2003, 09:51 AM
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Diablo, know what you mean about peoples concepions of Rottys! People are always weary of Trev. I have to say (proudly for once!!) that he is one of the best behaved dogs on the park we go to and no matter how tempted he is to go bombing off after other dogs, he resists!!
Had a Yorkshire Terrier owner have a go at me for not putting him on a lead cause he may go for her baby (who was also not on a lead and kept running up to him and going berserk!!) and a Bedlington Terrier owner gave me a dirty look when her dog went for Trev's throat and he barked loudly and scared it!! Some people!
Oh yeah and while i'm on the subject of stoooooopid people, a little girl excitedly pointed out that Trev looked like another Rotty she knew to which her dad told her that yes, Trev did look the same but was obviously malnourished and not looked after because he is so thin!! - Cheeky barsteward. If he had asked, i'd have told him he was crossed with a dobermann but instead there are now people thinking i'm a cruel owner. Try to do right by rescuing a dog (who was so thin when I got him that his ribs and spine were showing) and get accused of cruelty. *******!
- Rant over!
Had a Yorkshire Terrier owner have a go at me for not putting him on a lead cause he may go for her baby (who was also not on a lead and kept running up to him and going berserk!!) and a Bedlington Terrier owner gave me a dirty look when her dog went for Trev's throat and he barked loudly and scared it!! Some people!
Oh yeah and while i'm on the subject of stoooooopid people, a little girl excitedly pointed out that Trev looked like another Rotty she knew to which her dad told her that yes, Trev did look the same but was obviously malnourished and not looked after because he is so thin!! - Cheeky barsteward. If he had asked, i'd have told him he was crossed with a dobermann but instead there are now people thinking i'm a cruel owner. Try to do right by rescuing a dog (who was so thin when I got him that his ribs and spine were showing) and get accused of cruelty. *******!
- Rant over!
20 August 2003, 02:31 PM
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Lamo - you came over as sarcastic, and still do a bit mate, but, whatever... I posted to generally chat as if I had a pint in me hand, and its working - even with YOU now
Really sorry to hear that AVI - I had an OES for 13 yrs before the current one too. Holding the paw to be shaved by the vet on Xmas eve was the toughest thing yet for me - and then the government charge me VAT for the privilige of killing my dog...
This one I got from a first time breeder in Stoke. I had 2 full on 'interviews' by her and eventually she gave me the pick of the litter. Cost a packet, but I know his hips are good and his parents temparements, like his, are absolutely fab. In fact two 4 yr olds ran out of their house and straight into him yesterday on the way to the park & they both fell over. Biggest complaint was slobbery legs from his subsequent licks!
If that doesnt work (as is usual with these things for me) go Mutt
In a roundabout way the conclusion I guess is that all socialised dogs are generally fine - be it a big meaty Rottweiler / GSD or a stereotypically less dangerous dog. The only dog that has drawn blood from mine was a ****zu - this little dog goes berserk on his lead when he sees other dogs! Owners fault... I know GSD's, Pit Bulls & Rotties that are as daft as a brush, but then again that doesnt mean you should assume they ALL are, since if it all goes off there will be big damage, and these dogs are more likely to go off than a Lab or OES - or is that again an 'owner' thing???
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Edit - clearly Scoobynet only allows Shieyte-zus to be displayed LOL
[Edited by Diesel - 8/20/2003 2:34:59 PM]
Really sorry to hear that AVI - I had an OES for 13 yrs before the current one too. Holding the paw to be shaved by the vet on Xmas eve was the toughest thing yet for me - and then the government charge me VAT for the privilige of killing my dog...
This one I got from a first time breeder in Stoke. I had 2 full on 'interviews' by her and eventually she gave me the pick of the litter. Cost a packet, but I know his hips are good and his parents temparements, like his, are absolutely fab. In fact two 4 yr olds ran out of their house and straight into him yesterday on the way to the park & they both fell over. Biggest complaint was slobbery legs from his subsequent licks!
If that doesnt work (as is usual with these things for me
) go Mutt In a roundabout way the conclusion I guess is that all socialised dogs are generally fine - be it a big meaty Rottweiler / GSD or a stereotypically less dangerous dog. The only dog that has drawn blood from mine was a ****zu - this little dog goes berserk on his lead when he sees other dogs! Owners fault... I know GSD's, Pit Bulls & Rotties that are as daft as a brush, but then again that doesnt mean you should assume they ALL are, since if it all goes off there will be big damage, and these dogs are more likely to go off than a Lab or OES - or is that again an 'owner' thing???
D
Edit - clearly Scoobynet only allows Shieyte-zus to be displayed LOL
[Edited by Diesel - 8/20/2003 2:34:59 PM]
20 August 2003, 02:40 PM
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Its an owner thing mate.
A Rottie is no more likely to go off on one than a lab.
They do have a stronger natural guarding instinct though, but no where near as bad as say a Jack Russell.
Of course, that instinct does not mean they will be any more likely to cause injury than any other breed of dog.
There are two Rotties, two GSDs, a Spaniel and a collie cross in our street. Guess which one has bitten the postman.....
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A Rottie is no more likely to go off on one than a lab.
They do have a stronger natural guarding instinct though, but no where near as bad as say a Jack Russell.
Of course, that instinct does not mean they will be any more likely to cause injury than any other breed of dog.
There are two Rotties, two GSDs, a Spaniel and a collie cross in our street. Guess which one has bitten the postman.....
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20 August 2003, 02:56 PM
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Purely owner thing.
A well bred rottie is not a naturally aggressive dog. As diablo says, they have (along with GSD's) a very strong guarding instinct and will protect a loving owner to the death, but should not be aggressive.
Problems usually stem from poor breeding, lack of socialisation when young, generally pi55-poor owners and, in no small part, other ill-informed dog owners/members of the public.
A well bred rottie is not a naturally aggressive dog. As diablo says, they have (along with GSD's) a very strong guarding instinct and will protect a loving owner to the death, but should not be aggressive.
Problems usually stem from poor breeding, lack of socialisation when young, generally pi55-poor owners and, in no small part, other ill-informed dog owners/members of the public.
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The aggresion thing can be a prob - whether its from fear aggresion or just a nasty get. Mine's a French mastiff - bred to protect and it shows. He was a rescue and came with a bucketful of problems some of which we are unable to fix.
When I walk him as soon as I see other dogs or people he gets put on the lead.
1. Because when he plays with other dogs he is too big and rough and
2. People are scared of him due to look and size.
My choice to make sure he cannot be accused of causing fights by having him on the lead. If people let their dog come up to him off the lead I warn them and if they don't stop their dog its their fault if it gets hurt.
And just to make him a hero my wife came up to the car a couple of weeks ago and found 2 guys standing either side of it. One looking in and the other keeping watch. Dog immediately went in front of her and started growling. The two guys looked at him and got off their mark without a word. He got lots of biccies that night.
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When I walk him as soon as I see other dogs or people he gets put on the lead.
1. Because when he plays with other dogs he is too big and rough and
2. People are scared of him due to look and size.
My choice to make sure he cannot be accused of causing fights by having him on the lead. If people let their dog come up to him off the lead I warn them and if they don't stop their dog its their fault if it gets hurt.
And just to make him a hero my wife came up to the car a couple of weeks ago and found 2 guys standing either side of it. One looking in and the other keeping watch. Dog immediately went in front of her and started growling. The two guys looked at him and got off their mark without a word. He got lots of biccies that night.
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