difference between MI5/6 and SIS?
12 August 2003, 08:01 AM
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We all think we know who or what MI 5 & 6 are but who are SIS the Secret Intelligence Service? Is it just an umbrella term for MI5 and 6? Or a completely different organisation?
any spooks know?
any spooks know?
12 August 2003, 09:46 AM
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I'm not a spook (and if I was I guess I wouldn't admit it 
), but...as far as I know:
MI5 is the 'domestic' security service, run by the MoD
MI6 is the foreign intelligence service, run by the Foreign Office
SIS is, as far as I'm aware, just another name for MI6.
hth
), but...as far as I know:MI5 is the 'domestic' security service, run by the MoD
MI6 is the foreign intelligence service, run by the Foreign Office
SIS is, as far as I'm aware, just another name for MI6.
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12 August 2003, 10:03 AM
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I'm no Spook 
, but it's not the ones you know about and have heard of that you should be worried about! MI5 / 6 are the UK equivalent of the CIA in so far as they are the 'public' face of the intelligence services. In the States, there is the DIA - military inteligence - when was the last time you saw them mentioned in the press?? In the UK, there are many other departments using the 'MI' tag - you just don't get to hear about them much
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, but it's not the ones you know about and have heard of that you should be worried about! MI5 / 6 are the UK equivalent of the CIA in so far as they are the 'public' face of the intelligence services. In the States, there is the DIA - military inteligence - when was the last time you saw them mentioned in the press?? In the UK, there are many other departments using the 'MI' tag - you just don't get to hear about them much Chris
12 August 2003, 10:16 AM
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a quick flick through the internal MoD phone book will reveal all kinds of interesting intelligence departments...none of which are public...
The American NSA and FEMA also have unbelievable executive powers - well worth reading up on them...
The American NSA and FEMA also have unbelievable executive powers - well worth reading up on them...
12 August 2003, 12:29 PM
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But be careful of you do a search on the web for them, that will just make 'em suspicious and your name will go on the list of those to keep an eye on.
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12 August 2003, 01:01 PM
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Please note.
MI5 is concerned with domestic intellegence - both gathering and counter.
MI6 is concerned with foreign intellegence - both gathering and counter.
Both the above are civilian organisations and have operational links with all the Armed Services and the Poilce.
Real Intellegence
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SIS is made up
In the USA
CIA is the same as MI5&6. The cover both domestic and foreign intellegence.
NSA is directly responsible for counter intellegence and anti subversive operations and activities domestically.
Both are civilian.
The US Army, Navy, Marine Corp and Air Force all have there own individual Intellegence Corps with a Central Command reporting structure that works with the Joint chiefs if Staff at the Pentagon.
MI5 is concerned with domestic intellegence - both gathering and counter.
MI6 is concerned with foreign intellegence - both gathering and counter.
Both the above are civilian organisations and have operational links with all the Armed Services and the Poilce.
Real Intellegence
There is a picture of me on this Website, but it is an old one and I will not tell you which one
SIS is made up
In the USA
CIA is the same as MI5&6. The cover both domestic and foreign intellegence.
NSA is directly responsible for counter intellegence and anti subversive operations and activities domestically.
Both are civilian.
The US Army, Navy, Marine Corp and Air Force all have there own individual Intellegence Corps with a Central Command reporting structure that works with the Joint chiefs if Staff at the Pentagon.
12 August 2003, 01:04 PM
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Dai, SIS is not made up fella. As previously mentioned, SIS is the official term for MI6. SS is the official term for MI5, though for reasons i just can't think of right now, it isn't used publicly by MOD..!
12 August 2003, 01:49 PM
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True SIS is strictly speaking not made up, but it is MI6.
It was the old WW1 and 1920's name for MI6 and MI5 before they were split. It was resurected as an unofficial name for a grouping of several MI6 sections that along with MI5, JIC (Joint Intellegence Commitee ) and DIS ( Joint Intellegence Staff ) that advise the Government, Police and heads of the Armed Service on wide variety of subject matter via the relevent Government Secretaries and the ISC ( Intellegence and Security Commitee ).
Right I have said way ,way to much now, and will have to hand myself in to be 'debriefed'. Now where is the tooth with the cyanide capsule
Seriously all this can be found on many government public websites. So if you fancy being James Bond I will add a clicky - This clicky will self destruct in 15 seconds
SIS sections MI6
True SIS is strictly speaking not made up, but it is MI6.
It was the old WW1 and 1920's name for MI6 and MI5 before they were split. It was resurected as an unofficial name for a grouping of several MI6 sections that along with MI5, JIC (Joint Intellegence Commitee ) and DIS ( Joint Intellegence Staff ) that advise the Government, Police and heads of the Armed Service on wide variety of subject matter via the relevent Government Secretaries and the ISC ( Intellegence and Security Commitee ).
Right I have said way ,way to much now, and will have to hand myself in to be 'debriefed'. Now where is the tooth with the cyanide capsule
Seriously all this can be found on many government public websites. So if you fancy being James Bond I will add a clicky - This clicky will self destruct in 15 seconds
SIS sections MI6
12 August 2003, 02:04 PM
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We are currently running the following campaigns. Click on the job title you are interested in to go straight to the advertisement and information on how to apply:
Developed Vetting Investigation Officers starting salary from £29,930
Linguists Full time Arabic (all dialects including North African), Urdu, Persian, Turkish, Punjabi and Russian (with a second language). Ad Hoc/Freelance Kurdish, Bengali, Fujianese and Tamil. Starting salary from £20,100
Van Courier/Escort starting salary £15,394
Generalist - Graduate Equivalent starting salary £20,100 to circa £21,100.
Administrative Assistant starting salary £14.500
Surveillance Officer starting salary £21,497
All of these positions are located in central London and include a generous pension scheme.
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