TelBoy

...and you saw them do it, how far away would the person with the gun have to be for you to have enough time to get out of the way of the bullet, assuming you moved instantly?

I know there's loads and loads of variables in there, but can anyone suggest a rough estimate?

midget1500

well, how would you know he'd pulled the trigger? i.e. the bullet will travel faster than sound so you'll probably be hit before you hear the bang!

like watching someone hit a golf ball towards you from a couple of hundred feet away...

midget1500

oh, and sound travels @ 330m/s IIRC - as for the bullet, well, that depends on the muzzle velocity of the specific bullet in the specific gun

Puff The Magic Wagon!

iTrader: (2)

800ft per second is the typical muzzle velocity of a gun, therefore depending on your reactions, I'd say at least double that (flash of light, reaction time, react & time it takes to actually move)

Good luck anyway - I wouldn't like to experiment with that one...

TelBoy

Yep, i know there's lots of What Ifs Steve, but lets suppose your eyesight was good enough to see the trigger finger move, or something like that.

Would you actually be able to see the bullet coming towards you, or do they move too fast?

And let's assume an "average" power rifle, although i'd be interested to know what difference it would make if the firer had an ultra-powerful gun!

midget1500

hehehe well, yeah, forgot about muzzle flash (but that could be supressed ) so, as puff said, 800ft/s (something the ickle size of a bullet) there is no way you'd see it coming!

i think you've been watching the matrix too much

so, why do you ask? thinking of doing some jackass type experiments? good luck

cletterridge

Let's say you can see the flash with binoculars, your reaction time is 0.3s (average for this kind of thing) and can move out of the way in another 0.3s. In 0.6s, a bullet could have travelled about 160m. So you would need to stand a little bit further away than that to be safe. Or play a different game....

Poor Guy

well i can get out of the way of a BB travelling from a Marui MP5 but only just (from 50yrds away). so i dont think youd really have a chance.

super_si

This anything to do with the Matrix Terry i think your no Neo your size

Also Consider fatal or flesh wound

what would scooby do

Only the shooter can see a bullet in flight (and even that's very hard)

Luke

Go to hackney on a friday night and find out!!!

Dazza012

Try Nottingham, 2 more shooting's over the weekend and the police have just been given bucket loads of cash to reduce firearms offences, ie more stop and search of vehicles.

Brendan Hughes

Forget matrix, that's just a computer game ("download the jump program"). What about Charlie's Unrealistic Angels?

Sith

The best way to dodge is to see the trigger being pulled. Gives you suffient time to drop to the floor, provided it's a little distance away....

Red Scooby widdow

Poor Boy ..... don't think you'd be able to dodge one of EB's BB's,,,, his guns are all upgraded ! Fast .

TelBoy

Thanks for replies - interesting!

Nope, nothing Matrix-related, never seen them. Didn't realise it was relevant to either of those films to be honest!

Now i need a 160 metre tape measure!

skiddus_markus

Speed of sound is 330m/s so bullet must be faster than 800ft/s as that's 272.5ft/s slower than sound.I'd imagine more like 500m/s(1625f/s approx).So assuming you move as soon as they fire,you'd need to be around 250-300metres away.
You could always catch it in your teeth for the pose.

stuckhere

Have you seen Jackass the movie?
I wouldn't stand that close!

john_s

iTrader: (1)

What if they are a crap shot though, and by moving when you see them fire, you move out of a safe position and into the path of the bullet?

If they were using an SA-80, the 0.6 second would give you a safe distance of approx 900 x 0.6 = 540m. Problem that; the effective range of a single SA-80 is quoted at 300m (or 500m as a section weapon), so if the shooter is in range, you've not got chance to get out of the way!

I suppose though you could hope they are using a SA-80 there's a pretty good chance it would either misfire or have a stoppage!

John.

boxst

Telboy:

Okay, why are you asking this? Am I going to see "Fatality as Subaru owner tries to dodge bullet on advice from ScoobyNet"

Steve.

midget1500

don't worry telboy - just hide round a corner and the bullet can't get you

Scoobydick

Work out the distance as accuratelty as you can, double it and try this for real - I DARE you, go on. What ever the out come would make a good newspaper story and worth a few quid probably.

fivepint

I'll nominate you for the darwin awards when it all goes horribly wrong hehe

Luke

Wouldnt suggest trying to dodge a bullit if some one shoots at you here in uk.... The shooter could sue you for something silly like "stopping him from his right to kill you" or some other tosh...trouble is they could win!!

TelBoy

What range is a bullet-proof vest effective from?

Regacy

Why don't you try it with a target?
You hold the target and try to move it before the bullet hits it.
If you manage it ten times out of ten then use yourself as the target.

daiscooby

TelBoy
I was shot in the side many years ago and I was hit before anyone heard the shot. I was hit bt a 7.62 round from an AK at about 400 yards. At 800 fps and with 330 mps for sound I guess you would have to be just under a mile away for hear it and dive for the dirt.

As for body armour, depends on what your anticipating the threat to be. 9mm round with a decent set of Kevlars would be as close as 10-15 feet, but you would suffer serious soft tissue damage behind the strike. An AK or M16 your talking serious distance like 150-200 feet. Most serive issue body armour is designed for shrapnel not for taking rounds.

TelBoy for what purpose is this mate ?.
Is this a dispute on Delta Force Land Warrior ?
Or are you going into the Yardie business ?.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

iTrader: (2)

Found this pic on my CS site - sorta sums up the question here

ProperCharlie

and where can we buy tickets?

brickboy

"I bet you think you're pretty smart, huh?
Think you could outsmart a bullet?"

Name that film