Dr Hu

fifty pence a fooking mile - in his fooking dreams.... Who will re-elect a party which brings that in.....

unclebuck

Unbelievable.

1997: Won general election and announced road building moratorium

1998: Said building more roads to ease congestion on the M25 was "not an option"

2000: Maintained stance: "Simply building more and more roads is not the answer."

2002: Initiated road-building programme as rail network deteriorated

2003: Major road expansion and study into national charging planned

This government really is the most slimey, two-faced, untrustworthy bunch of ***** I've ever come across.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] It really is time to get out of this s**thole country.

UB

NotoriousREV

They need to get freight off the roads and back onto the railways. It seems that HGV traffic is expanding faster than other traffic (may not be the case but it certainly feels like there was an explosion of HGV traffic in the last 18 months or so)

sexy wrx69

yeah...cause car owners DONT have to pay enough out already!


policitians are a bunch of morons. why dont they just stop giving themselves ridiculous payrises and use that money to do up the roads.

tiggers

On the subject of HGV traffic are people aware that much of the time that big HGV next to you is travelling completely or at least partly empty.

The haulage companies moan about the tax on fuel, but a lot of them are not prepared to do anything to optimise their capacity - should tax them further I reckon ;-)

Regards,

tiggers.

ScoobyJawa

If we have to start paying to use roads they can **** off if they think I'm paying Road Tax, since thats already there for that.

Wnaker government - bunch of toss3rs.

Shropshire-Guy

I agree with Uncle buck . Time to get out bigtime.

As for Tiggers reply lol.

£ 3000 a year road tax for HGV, same insurance. And 9 mpg ,and you want us to be charged more. If tax needs to go up on anything Its 4 x 4 owners that need it uping. Discovery,Rangerovers, Shoguns etc etc should be £ 500 a year as they think they own the road , they intimadate other road users and 99% will never climb anything more then a curb

Nimbus

So charging road users on motorways will force drives off the roads that can best handle fast, heavy traffic (Mway) onto those that can't (Country A/B roads)

Mungo

Nimbus - you forgot the best bit! They can reduce speed limits on the A/B roads to 40mph, and then put speed cameras every mile to get revenue up on them too. The government is also hoping that so many drivers get banned on totting-up that this will also reduce congestion.

sillysi

Would people mind paying for a high speed lane on the motorway that had maybe an 80mph limit and no road works and seperate from the rest of the lanes?

Nimbus

When traveling at 70mph on the mway, the only thing I pass are HGVs... Everything else is already doing 80+


No way to guarantee this. All roads require repair at some time...


Not sure how this would work. Do you mean just by road markings or a physical barrier? Can you imagine the road rage caused by someone not going at 80mph and the tail back because people behind don't want to move into the peasants lanes...

sillysi

There would have to be a physical barrier to keep the none paying peasants out of the way. Cars using the lane could have radar controlled cruise control to keep them a safe distance apart and all at 80mph. The road would be self repairing, thus never need road works ;-)

tiggers

Shropshire Guy,

I was only kidding about taxing them further hence the wink, but I am serious about optimisation. It was a huge issue with the packaging company where I worked up until a little while ago, but I don't think a lot of prgress was made.

Regards,

tiggers.

P.S. I'm totally with you on the 4x4 off road fashion accessory thing by the way - you got my vote.

Adrian F

if all money from Taxation on the motorist went in to road building and maintance we would have the best most comprehensive road network in Europe with no jams until that day why pay more than we already do?

And yes we can build more roads and not have grid lock the current problem is that road building stopped and vehicle usage continued to grow as any sensiable person would expect from a society which relies on Mobility of Labour as a key part of its economic success and with growth in the economy so comes increase in wealth to the individual so car ownership grows and also the population is growing!

All in all the road network only covers a fraction of the land surface of this country and they can build the roads we need and not damage the country. if need be put tunnels under the sensitive bits of go round them. what they also need to do and is being done is to use vehicles with less emissions and cost in time wasted as an asset wasted then we would prove what we know that the car is more economical and efficient than public transport can ever be!

Shropshire-Guy

I hearbye appolagise then Tiggers and im sorry for taking it the wrong way.

SORRY.

Steve.

Mate of Tiggers.

Leslie

Couldn't have put it better UB.

Les

skiddus_markus

We'll all have flying cars soon anyway.

john_s

iTrader: (1)

Some people seem to struggle to control there cars in two dimensions... throw a third dimension in, and they'll be well & truly screwed!

John

boxst

Hello ....

Story here: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030709/80/e3xl6.html

Extracts:

"Darling is also expected to outline proposals for introducing road charging throughout England to avoid gridlock on the country's busiest roads."

"Transport advisers said earlier this week that a 50 pence a mile charge should be imposed on the busiest roads by 2015."

Steve.

** Edited for Typos **

[Edited by boxst - 7/9/2003 10:01:24 AM]